From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 790053CB3F for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 08:01:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1567512067; bh=d/VY34DBDfJxVwVyL/CUydjgMmY4fYZCsUf55w0/3MQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=e60KuMra2vT3XGszKRC0MSGxW8qawattUgNR+IMrdsaW6ln9fYMEollm+4lTVpWav f0hSO567VDpDqv8WHzeKWNfgYmGOxqR4IPZnePvhqo8RXFGHOfRKvKgrQgNWODsX1D nsAqlVBv7bsJlouD+g7Wll3Dy15rBkyWScbs/BO4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [10.11.12.32] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOzSu-1hoXWR1spo-00PP1R; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 14:01:07 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <87o901a9ij.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 14:01:06 +0200 Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1B771A2B-FCBD-4305-B89C-6BD7B35976AE@gmx.de> References: <87r24xa9t6.fsf@toke.dk> <1D8AA225-1173-4C9A-8729-FAB5CC23A3AA@gmx.de> <87o901a9ij.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+wau//osgkRWRNpNiD711x3uIK40mtuonDvBwxoc8fQGYxR1GpN 1D+4mm5103NKr//ypf4EGNu889Yjh8QD9728yh+9L217YWvzFiVRn2YOfWjp0HB3JYa1X0Q +ZhBnzQ86cnNKCVj2pRLS0cwM4GD+9q+f+zuTLAavHuMWr2J6Fvj79rdqJ9sjLYHASjHD7t L2n9Rxxu2uV9GOhVyl7EQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:utAiOlYLPRY=:3yOTHr437jLYq9QcgK6lLV 8bMFHzuNf45b38Ft/Lx2U2fEVfpyOHEt9Pcj3HuL0+w0UhLFWkAiHVVfRqatvNIIeS+WEnzAu FAY+EgiXl+BARURaG1+OxqU1Zfir6kxWluojo8+AApABF7wFqnAjx8GEXXENydrQ2SE3/sdJT EqcFbMX2eyc3pIYTnp+/mghjldakhwutDrOxXcjdWqA45J4xDZab6ovBVfMQ67CQW4wvlBzjp BrI06/n8j/MV5xirQFCKmbGSc4eQRZg7fAA3cIITGP5GCqZExrby/LpDh3+dkHpggSHJBAjJS YRCGl29OG5Dy1GjeDB+YEyIWyNtMvBg9rDeVUiWQtpN4ET+sCh83wcJZHIQ001aRz353eSkz/ EgZvVA1OsPHmP/mN4Ao++dC847/2xLccXW6O5+ajOCvn465swKGALUFz/vNuBwi5IFXlPeIfs X+X6OrFFm30s/Jatt+89CaFh+62nxb+N4z+dQV1uIQ2gL3Njaj3bU8VgxUfM2mB/ad+42wtZy akuuILMR9xmSGkrItu6G1/0PVGg3B6UgDpJ+uYh4RSbDT9IK4L20M8bnHImYCDfT6ymN38rYF 70wByPAzbYLHs9HdTifLqrmG2UFta4y40Mx03jhrRxKOTCvSgjUN6uU4SpkKW1oW1NV8HOClM NxXioNOkJeUhOQxrLt3hzNWCnQkRvqzK0Mx37n4yo9NiQOcvQFG6GnWmW1LGDKuiaZcpztC+6 bpcuF1HRmOTx5am+BsktdPpoO8ZRWZgujeUME4vAzPGXOlHndEUdhX3Qtb6LWwNlV5e93w6Oj eLzB7sQqJWKps2tpJ8wb9y0MYaa5ZuM2HOl77GLA23luFFdza0G+/uqVx0gj/PPWFzTzU1vpU tp+3zccez9oGkwgWYNlnC8ZR9vq+bXCQBiZn+UKPYo/8Hj45y751g7uEciaZs5kWzDDSk51oI wsBYhPJgY1A+56eK9EcQMaUy+YD1DnhvO2XnKnTol+hM5jZctjNDrfoJBdobVtthL5HI78QXJ rWXLdcVjd854lZNrFaz/TufM3ffUKON+1VX+V39b3+ULQStKZydO9bGlWvoQNSpTFBt7WxWn+ nMkC1KwUf4q8paJX0pwVJAuVe3mt4ry1aXCBjL5kGqdPpZm1ymYPaQznvz/GO774GuIsiwjc+ azxtecdmH0XU79rYBKgLsbCFYpQtoaEgO5PaatDD396EgZOQ== Subject: Re: [Bloat] Getting bloat tests into open source speedtest X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 12:01:14 -0000 > On Sep 3, 2019, at 13:45, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Sebastian Moeller writes: >=20 >> Hi Toke, >>=20 >> +1 >>=20 >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 13:39, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi everyone >>>=20 >>> I came across this open source speedtest: = https://www.netztest.at/en/ >>> (also run by nic.cz and integrated into the Turris Omnia firmware: >>> https://www.netmetr.cz/en/ ). >>=20 >> I tried to contact the www.netmetr.cz folks (last year), but so = far.... crickets... >=20 > Heh, well thanks for trying at least. I figured the upstream open = source > project might be the best way to get things fixed; we'll see if they = are > responsive :) I would hope so,. My gut feeling is, that we should address this = with BEREC (https://berec.europa.eu) as all these national regulator's = internet speedtests all closely follow the BEREC recommendations and = there might be little perceived freedom for the national implementation = according to the BEREC guidelines for changes/additions. Last time I = contacted the implementor of the german speedtest (breitbandmessung.de), = they basically send me bunch of BEREC documents and deflected my = questions towards the EU ;) Best Regards Sebastian >=20 > -Toke