From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x236.google.com (mail-lj1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53AAC3B29E for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2020 16:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x236.google.com with SMTP id y11so2788858ljm.9 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2020 13:22:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=MmC5wslR1+CUzKiCZOhcYP1oDEgfh82wFKKaSrUA6VM=; b=uB7SftuiWGBk9s/QgzJEPtykFXsl0yxkksmcLCseS0kl8NIuBhfb2RBuW1rYlzLhCG 5antgryIrtmLWNNSgKA0OOGoci3di1YMr4yhV7gNkgbdtRtWG2qE6g34q1yjtFuDYYid Gck+rzSoKrdNoSLy35WCwPCRpYzjH1Xlt021birl7tahcPzbeDSeEQeF8ZTAwj2qCKj2 IBd/KHcZPsN0dG0bxSc9Pw5fttoMkQ3D8nF8jAzgdgwCSGlSwQY/ytKYo0L/oUx5ehhf DuI7ktRlYPl4I1QeIhg7WbXVUCV0Hcnj9TJoCuIf2shCSbHmTN+7wQwkoinZd82Ohr0E xb4g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=MmC5wslR1+CUzKiCZOhcYP1oDEgfh82wFKKaSrUA6VM=; b=oSmTz+Y7+P5OwEwcNUOBTGn/uZhbJOwZMJypJxn0PDpsbyA+3IQ3DPCfWRlTPXwfS9 b1d+37HzLJQ0OQYxR2EITnvMKLCSRa1BGD2w3r3kVeE6zV/dXcYG1X5/ymZZZcHOLq8n /sna78RnGSoDZBz9kYUfb9QYb1IpfXaDjCv3THtI47efEIXYjk/k9dfeFmGkppDDZBkm vfLBWmJkZm61P0wrAL+B1EyQpvDHU3NV10q83+WiZ0sbJXprgnuebi4yxfNv3FQRtA0s uK+xRDO2U9zeT3emMRDiDpN+3xvKU9D2y7qRWY/dQnf0qAmq8Qv930mhXEugYMojPKnn d24Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ynll5zuAfyI4tCysMdzMrTnfmqRuxqOG2aECQ6P69xPM7aSnP iq1YbZSipx07g6O4GrrZ2rs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWZ8nu6a/neJfBmmy5oq1tuZkEoJm7myl+tVMALQYsS4weDP3bTZUqmLvcnCrA1qVKpSVHgw== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9618:: with SMTP id v24mr480666ljh.303.1591215757124; Wed, 03 Jun 2020 13:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-237-14-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.237.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm705042lja.1.2020.06.03.13.22.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jun 2020 13:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.5\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 23:22:34 +0300 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= , Adam Hunt , jgc@cloudflare.com, bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1C65A8E8-3685-4DCB-ABC1-0AF353EA0E5B@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.5) Subject: Re: [Bloat] New speed/latency/jitter test site from Cloudflare X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 20:22:38 -0000 > On 3 Jun, 2020, at 7:48 pm, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > I am of course, always interested in how they are measuring latency, = and where. They don't seem to be adding more latency measurements once the download = tests begin. So in effect they are only measuring idle latency. - Jonathan Morton