From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sender4-op-o10.zoho.com (sender4-op-o10.zoho.com [136.143.188.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F2B83B29D for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2023 10:37:33 -0500 (EST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1699198650; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=XVHXXxN/GPqWwpKmczSxqYlLtPDchtuX4UDA9fKc9s0M9bDsa0tDjvkFCAsvqjFJexYyVDQnNq++eGdXQx9JJQENltq4c12A7wrVwv8XfUwRpnDVgHlODbihjGCwtyIOZGc2aPY5buJIX1jsISguA1li/pQSGuN5pPjubWJYesU= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1699198650; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:From:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To; bh=2QSoXZsVCky0wr/wzXtViU/FEPCK+97opSpVGAWN/+E=; b=kb9QOQF/4dW6PNmtOnKKqB6zI7wExP9+ViWtdjW5ln/3IZNOyZvI6j9eFpSA36r12J0vLqtPIDVbffgNhJZr9RIWMTirNtSBpxIuv6R8S9PeZD0bok579pqK4dYG+HKnjvFb6QP5en1sF03tJXJ2zG1Z1NtABofXtzx0xGDjrnM= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jonathanfoulkes.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=jf@jonathanfoulkes.com; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1699198650; s=zoho; d=jonathanfoulkes.com; i=jf@jonathanfoulkes.com; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Subject:From:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Date:Cc:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Message-Id:References:To:To:Reply-To; bh=2QSoXZsVCky0wr/wzXtViU/FEPCK+97opSpVGAWN/+E=; b=qZjUR+DnR4uSkR/T53PBlEaGOBvf9XCz+utai7Figc3zK4sC4w2klffvqH/YHnNK y+1qyUairPeb+rKKP9uK1dNa6lgZ/Nw0zOO3UXi0/1eaS7yKneXPEM5vJCLnX1MvFhd PSgyrRPp9Avc8RrT3iyLNzTbMuNbbD5HnTW5/xC4= Received: from smtpclient.apple (h108.162.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net [75.117.162.108]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1699198648748679.515718289195; Sun, 5 Nov 2023 07:37:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.200.91.1.1\)) From: "jf@jonathanfoulkes.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 10:37:17 -0500 Cc: bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1C819B8E-03F4-4C52-8D19-B5C7CDD53382@jonathanfoulkes.com> References: To: Sebastian Moeller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.200.91.1.1) X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: [Bloat] sad news... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2023 15:37:34 -0000 Hi All, I=E2=80=99m the founder of Evenroute, and yes, this was a though = one to go through. Seb, I have to say, a big thanks to you for all the great feedback and = support you give the OpenWRT community regarding QoS over the years. You tirelessly reply to the same questions over and over, our product = was aimed at making that workload lighter ;-) > But even in this state they still seem to act exemplary, in posting = information how users can switch to upstream OpenWrt. Thanks for that, as a consumer whose been stuck with many a = cloud-service enrolled devices that become a brick as soon as they = discontinue it or go away, I was set on not doing that to our customers. So every running unit a of the end of October was =E2=80=98liberated=E2=80= =99 and can freely upgrade to newer OpenWRT if and when they chose to. And yes, few options out there, it=E2=80=99s rather puzzling. If anyone is interested in discussing the assets (the IP is three = patents, a trademark and of course, the code), please reach out to me. And thanks to the many of you who have encouraged us and supported us = over the years, it means a lot. Jonathan Foulkes > On Nov 5, 2023, at 9:37=E2=80=AFAM, Sebastian Moeller via Bloat = wrote: >=20 > ...it seems the evenroute closed shop, see: > https://evenroute.com >=20 > they were IMHO a trail blazer in turning what we learned about bloat = and how to ameliorate into a product that one could recommend one's not = tech-affine family members in good conscience. >=20 > But even in this state they still seem to act exemplary, in posting = information how users can switch to upstream OpenWrt. >=20 > That leaves only few options, covering the same group of users...=20 >=20 > Regards > sebastian > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat