From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-02-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-077-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.77]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6098E2E015C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-01-ewr.mailhop.org (scanner [10.0.141.223]) by mail-02-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36D473F7FE for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:18:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 76.74.103.46 Received: from mail.vyatta.com (mail.vyatta.com [76.74.103.46]) by mail-02-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A80D73F7B2 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vyatta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ABF182933D; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:18:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tahiti.vyatta.com Received: from mail.vyatta.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vyatta.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EB0o5hqFWX81; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nehalam (pool-74-107-135-205.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [74.107.135.205]) by mail.vyatta.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A56751829234; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:18:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:18:20 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Jonathan Morton Message-ID: <20110311161820.702c22a8@nehalam> In-Reply-To: <2E73145C-A8DF-444A-A072-9732E6268DEF@gmail.com> References: <6210AF7E-3EB3-4199-A87B-A54B0F73A106@gmail.com> <20110311092157.23dea5e8@nehalam> <87d3lxr14w.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <78467362-36BF-4298-AFC0-4271BED7D439@gmail.com> <0816DC78-373D-4392-8ED9-59BFEF50D0BB@gmail.com> <20110311142000.436937a3@nehalam> <2E73145C-A8DF-444A-A072-9732E6268DEF@gmail.com> Organization: Vyatta X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.0; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Erica Han , "Jiangtao \(Gene\) Wen" , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] Taxonomy of various sender-side TCPs X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:18:28 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:13:20 +0200 Jonathan Morton wrote: > > On 12 Mar, 2011, at 12:20 am, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > I bugged then at Linux Plumber's to submit it to get into the upstream > > kernel, but seems to be stuck in internal testing? > > It appears that they want to get a patent on it. Hence they do have to keep their cards quite close for the moment, if they don't want to compromise that process. > > Of course I have opinions on software patents - happily they are not a massive problem in Finland - but merely being patented isn't a complete deal-breaker for an algorithm to go into Linux, provided it has an appropriately liberal licensing scheme (ie. GPL compatible). > > - Jonathan > Never mind then, it sounds like another TCP FAST! --