From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours - timestamps?
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:42:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110315154248.7d7fec3a@nehalam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B0D29649-6BAC-4575-AA83-BEE9D46BEC03@gmail.com>
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:40:28 +0200
Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 16 Mar, 2011, at 12:36 am, Rick Jones wrote:
>
> > Back and forth synchronization between driver and device is
> > doubleplusungood. Being able to remove a packet on the tx queue already
> > made known to the NIC sounds like it could become a rathole. If you are
> > lucky, you *might* have a "valid/invalid" bit in a packet descriptor
> > that the driver could hope to set before the NIC had pulled-in a copy
> > across the I/O bus.
>
> Since this would be on the order of a second after submission, this seems unlikely then.
>
> The even better solution would be if the hardware timed-out an old packet by itself after about 1 second. Does this happen already? If not, can it?
>
> - Jonathan
The real problem was the IEEE 802 design that does retransmit at link level and
therefore ends up being outside of control of software.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-15 22:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-15 10:36 Jim Gettys
2011-03-15 14:40 ` Jim Gettys
2011-03-15 16:47 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 17:59 ` Don Marti
2011-03-15 18:14 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 18:31 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-15 19:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 19:59 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 20:51 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-15 21:31 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-16 0:32 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-16 1:02 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 22:01 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:19 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-15 22:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:36 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 22:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:42 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2011-03-15 22:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-15 23:02 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 23:12 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 23:25 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 23:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 23:46 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16 0:49 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 1:02 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16 1:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 1:59 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16 2:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 22:22 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 23:38 ` richard
2011-03-16 23:50 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 12:05 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-17 12:18 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-17 17:27 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-18 18:30 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-18 18:49 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-20 11:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 22:18 ` david
2011-03-20 22:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 22:50 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 22:55 ` grenville armitage
2011-03-20 23:04 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 23:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 23:19 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 23:23 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 22:58 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-21 1:28 ` david
2011-03-21 1:56 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-03-18 18:27 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion ofTCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 22:07 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-17 0:10 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 0:47 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " John W. Linville
2011-03-16 20:07 ` Jim Gettys
2011-03-17 2:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 18:22 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 21:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 22:20 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 22:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-18 1:36 ` Justin McCann
2011-03-18 5:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-15 16:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 18:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-16 5:41 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-16 6:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 8:55 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 9:04 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " BeckW
2011-03-16 22:48 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-16 23:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 8:34 ` BeckW
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