From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.vyatta.com (mail.vyatta.com [76.74.103.46]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACDD200252 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vyatta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A381410007; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tahiti.vyatta.com Received: from mail.vyatta.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vyatta.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PGwSjVj+Me2z; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net (static-50-53-80-93.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.53.80.93]) by mail.vyatta.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3B0E91410006; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:03:57 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer Message-ID: <20120313090357.2c9ac0db@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> In-Reply-To: <5ce67de28ae4c472a088f0a37e643092@localhost> References: <5ce67de28ae4c472a088f0a37e643092@localhost> Organization: Vyatta X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] high speed networking from userspace X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:04:01 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:28:52 +0100 Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:09:44 -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > > > is the by the same guy that did QFQ, and the results are quite > > impressive. He (today) announced support for this interface for Linux. > > > > shades of VJ's 'network channels'! > > "already" implemented: > > see > > o http://www.ioremap.net/node/12 > o http://www.ioremap.net/taxonomy/term/6 > > and all netdev discussions several years ago. > > HGN User space networking works well for single application be it routing, bridging, network trading, or single appliance. It doesn't work on a multi-application environment (ie desktop). The gain is only because the userspace code can choose to do less, but do it faster. So if you want full stack, and firewall; don't bother.