From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from order.stressinduktion.org (order.stressinduktion.org [87.106.68.36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "order.stressinduktion.org", Issuer "order.stressinduktion.org" (not verified)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E446021F150 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by order.stressinduktion.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1EBFF1A0CDA8; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:53:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:53:14 +0100 From: Hannes Frederic Sowa To: Michael Richardson Message-ID: <20121227055314.GB20131@order.stressinduktion.org> References: <20121227023728.GB19548@order.stressinduktion.org> <18172.1356584697@sandelman.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18172.1356584697@sandelman.ca> Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] enabling outgoing tcp-ecn by default for ipv6 links X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:53:18 -0000 On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:04:57AM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote: > >>>>> "Hannes" == Hannes Frederic Sowa writes: > Hannes> I am thinking about advancing the ipv4/tcp_ecn knob in linux to > Hannes> distinguish between ipv4 and ipv6 transport and enable ecn signaling > Hannes> on outgoing ipv6 connections by default (for me, at least). I am > Hannes> currently doing so with the help of iptables (echo 1 > tcp_ecn and -j > Hannes> ECN --ecn-tcp-remove). > > I think it's definitely worth splitting the sysctl, so that we can at > least learn if it can fly in v6 land. I'd turn it on. > > I suggest that doing this without a way to report on a path/IP/vendor > that is screwing things up is a mistake. > > http://urchin.earth.li/ecn/ > > went inactive again in 2011. What data would be needed? Some website where one could copy&paste traceroutes (with tcp/ecn enabled)? A reprobe mechanism? Some correlation/dependence mechanisms? Something like this could be a neat experiment for RIPE Atlas. It would be nice to have such tests in the various implementations of looking glass, too. Greetings, Hannes