From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-da0-x22e.google.com (mail-da0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 170BC21F118 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-da0-f46.google.com with SMTP id z8so900045dad.5 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=YW5aUZ6tYwbT7pLsSjefh9xnIpp6n23ojEg2bneMmYs=; b=Azq1O1wCw5KgFfDIZoyYa3vZFIJvOYn4ryiEmnkX6dMGQJLKTrTT+JZkNAxkuKNfZW UwOkq+NEALA1mNmsOzSy1GE/9/hHGX1DuknSOovrrBZdEF2qa9Ie8lz032uj3vzIdc4t Nl6GI3UsHdTv/TCeeZB1me4lqa9ZxakA1SXDnzxPo79U5AWO7Qt7f2lDO/wsHMTQ0WxW JAAgXDIHfC+1njwXzH0+jJuT5XKUuRmlvyYxJb/NW+B6OIxS4UD7Wn8fNe5Mri9NfI7L ngRG5JInuY9SCe4z4S2p/IMqKdezWMjk20VHwEF1W3asRo33stY1Dw5WRJnan25o5qb4 1b5g== X-Received: by 10.66.75.193 with SMTP id e1mr6638809paw.202.1363548294564; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net (static-50-53-71-109.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net. [50.53.71.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pg7sm17496430pbc.5.2013.03.17.12.24.53 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:24:49 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Jim Gettys Message-ID: <20130317122449.3dce3692@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl76Sos4SDft7Km4k8o6/zs7wTfi9noSBrhu3w7NqVqgIx7qMwGEyH1F8ZFQW3g8yg0XMFo Cc: Eric Dumazet , bloat , tsv-area@ietf.org, aqm@ietf.org, Mikael Abrahamsson Subject: Re: [Bloat] Flow queuing performance (was: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-baker-tsvwg-aqm-recommendation-00.txt) X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:24:55 -0000 On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:12:16 -0400 Jim Gettys wrote: > As a result, at the last Linux Plumber's Conference in August, there was > general consensus that we could replace PFIFO_FAST as the default qdisc in > Linux, awaiting just our confidence that fq_codel (or something very > similar) was mature enough for such a step. The only thing holding this back is that some user's still want to have priority queueing of control packets. I (and others) have done some experiments on layering a traditional three class priority layer on top of fq_codel, but nothing concrete has been submitted for review.