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From: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de>
To: aqm@ietf.org
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [aqm] [tsvwg] how much of a problem is buffer bloat today?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:25:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201303261825.47601.mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1303220521370.2309@uplift.swm.pp.se>

Hi,

+1. Would be nice to have such statictics available for the user in every OS!

Mirja


On Friday 22 March 2013 05:27:31 Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Jim Gettys wrote:
> > Every more modern TCP can easily fill any sized buffer given time with a
> > single TCP connection.
>
> I agree with this, I made this discovery myself back in 2004 or so, and
> had to implement Fairqueue and WRED on my home connection to make it
> bearable to use any interactive application while transferring files.
>
> In IETF75 in Stockholm in 2009, I made proposals in both TCP and at open
> mic in one of the sessions, that I would like to see statistics and
> performance numbers on packet loss, delay variation etc from actual
> traffic. The IP stack has great insight in what the network conditions are
> (especially with TCP Timestamping), but as far as I know it's not really
> exported in any usable format to the user. My idea was to have some kind
> of dashboard for the user to show if currently the network was the
> limiting factor, if the tcp window was maxed out etc. Would also be nice
> if there was output that could be cut/pasted and attached to a fault
> report in case the customer talks to customer support. It would be good if
> this was actually a standard so all OSes did the same.
>
> I am not aware of any such work going on, so I'd like to know if anyone
> else is aware of work in this area?



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-26 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <51408BF4.7090304@cisco.com>
     [not found] ` <8C48B86A895913448548E6D15DA7553B7D020F@xmb-rcd-x09.cisco.com>
2013-03-21 17:50   ` [Bloat] " Oliver Hohlfeld
2013-03-21 18:01     ` Jim Gettys
2013-03-21 18:14       ` Oliver Hohlfeld
2013-03-21 18:28         ` Jim Gettys
2013-03-21 18:36           ` Dave Taht
2013-03-21 19:08 ` Oliver Hohlfeld
2013-03-21 19:25   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2013-03-21 20:05     ` Jim Gettys
2013-03-22  4:27       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2013-03-22  6:00         ` [Bloat] [aqm] " grenville armitage
2013-03-22 13:23           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2013-03-22 13:31             ` Dave Taht
2013-03-26 17:25         ` Mirja Kuehlewind [this message]
2013-03-26 17:49           ` [Bloat] [tsvwg] [aqm] " Scheffenegger, Richard
2013-03-26 20:02             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2013-03-21 20:04   ` [Bloat] [tsvwg] " David Lang
2013-03-21 20:47     ` Oliver Hohlfeld

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