From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc (Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc [IPv6:2001:4d88:1ffa:82:880:aa0:9009:64ae]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 182DF21F0E7 for ; Thu, 9 May 2013 14:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pfeifer by Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UaYYu-0001jT-7m; Thu, 09 May 2013 23:39:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 23:39:39 +0200 From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer To: Dave Taht Message-ID: <20130509213939.GB4170@virgo.local> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Key-Id: 98350C22 X-Key-Fingerprint: 490F 557B 6C48 6D7E 5706 2EA2 4A22 8D45 9835 0C22 X-GPG-Key: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net 98350C22 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] tcp loss probes in linux 3.10 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 21:39:42 -0000 * Dave Taht | 2013-05-09 13:55:18 [-0700]: >While this appears to make a great deal of sense > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dukkipati-tcpm-tcp-loss-probe-01 > >and just landed in > >http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=6ba8a3b19e764b6a65e4030ab0999be50c291e6c > >I was intrigued by several of the pieces of data that drive this stuff > >Measurements on Google Web servers show that approximately 70% of > retransmissions for Web transfers are sent after the RTO timer > expires, while only 30% are handled by fast recovery. Even on > servers exclusively serving YouTube videos, RTO based retransmissions, > >96% of the timeout episodes occur without any preceding duplicate ACKs or >other indication of losses at the sender Btw: Nandita introduced a new MIB entry: LINUX_MIB_TCPLOSSPROBES. $ nstat -a | grep TCPLossProbes will show fired probes. Hagen