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Curtis & all,

At 17:07 14/10/2013, Curtis Villamizar wrote:
>In enterprise and data center there is also very good control over
>what equipment is used and how it is used.  However, clue density
>decreases exponentially farther from the core and approaches zero in
>some data centers and in some enterprise IT departments.  This is also
>true of the part of service provider organizations that pick stuff for
>consumer access.  Where clue density is lowest, you'll find ignorance
>of AQM and buffer issues and lack of consideration for buffering and
>AQM when picking equipment for deployment and configuring it.

We (BT) use WRED extensively at the edge routers into our global 
enterprise MPLS network (see the 
<http://www2.bt.com/btPortal/application;JSESSIONID_btPortalWebApp=Jq1gl1Qz8sbdOQjvnRTGVGo1IfBs47bTe6Amy69S3bYcsw5A99sp!6984303?namespace=pns_catalogue&origin=mb_navigator_right_cd_editorial.jsp&event=link.print.editorial&PorS=products&contentType=techinicalspec&contentitemid=editorial/tech_spec/mpls_ts.xml&productDetail=products/mpls.xml>BT 
MPLS technical 
<http://www2.bt.com/btPortal/application;JSESSIONID_btPortalWebApp=Jq1gl1Qz8sbdOQjvnRTGVGo1IfBs47bTe6Amy69S3bYcsw5A99sp!6984303?namespace=pns_catalogue&origin=mb_navigator_right_cd_editorial.jsp&event=link.print.editorial&PorS=products&contentType=techinicalspec&contentitemid=editorial/tech_spec/mpls_ts.xml&productDetail=products/mpls.xml>specification).


Bob




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Curtis &amp; all,<br><br>
At 17:07 14/10/2013, Curtis Villamizar wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">In enterprise and data center
there is also very good control over<br>
what equipment is used and how it is used.&nbsp; However, clue
density<br>
decreases exponentially farther from the core and approaches zero in<br>
some data centers and in some enterprise IT departments.&nbsp; This is
also<br>
true of the part of service provider organizations that pick stuff
for<br>
consumer access.&nbsp; Where clue density is lowest, you'll find
ignorance<br>
of AQM and buffer issues and lack of consideration for buffering and<br>
AQM when picking equipment for deployment and configuring
it.</blockquote><br>
We (BT) use WRED extensively at the edge routers into our global
enterprise MPLS network (see the
<a href="http://www2.bt.com/btPortal/application;JSESSIONID_btPortalWebApp=Jq1gl1Qz8sbdOQjvnRTGVGo1IfBs47bTe6Amy69S3bYcsw5A99sp!6984303?namespace=pns_catalogue&amp;origin=mb_navigator_right_cd_editorial.jsp&amp;event=link.print.editorial&amp;PorS=products&amp;contentType=techinicalspec&amp;contentitemid=editorial/tech_spec/mpls_ts.xml&amp;productDetail=products/mpls.xml">
BT MPLS technical
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specification</a>).<br><br>
<br>
Bob<br><br>
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