From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.redhat.com", Issuer "DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation Server CA" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC92921F307; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8C7HvHu011929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:17:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (ovpn-116-37.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.37]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8C7HsBg022421; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:17:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:17:30 +0200 From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer To: Rich Brown Message-ID: <20140912091730.2e762c93@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Red Hat Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/9lX6t3oF+YqnBF88IW5b1fr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 Cc: Wes Felter , bloat , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Joel =?UTF-8?B?V2lyxIFtdQ==?= Pauling Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:18:32 -0000 --Sig_/9lX6t3oF+YqnBF88IW5b1fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:13:19 -0400 Rich Brown wrote: > I'll sign too. (And I like the 98th percentile measure for each > direction to give a single number that represents what's happening. It > could include ping loss rate, as well...) I'll sign too. The 98th percentile latency is of-cause nice, but we should remember to keep our request simple. "Dear speedtest.net/speedof.me please add a latency test, that measures latency during the upload and download test-runs." That will be the first baby step, don't make it too complicated for them, afterwards we can start explaining if we want min/max or 98th percentile. They already have a ping facility, which the only run _before_ starting the test run. Thus, they should be-able to easily adapt their existing "ping" code to measure during the test-runs... give then something they can easily do. --=20 Best regards, Jesper Dangaard Brouer MSc.CS, Sr. Network Kernel Developer at Red Hat Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer --Sig_/9lX6t3oF+YqnBF88IW5b1fr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlQSnh8ACgkQOlVNAzs3vO1kiQD+PsERk+H3ws1E6DWeFpyX0aZ+ LEKlmg4o2LVCqiqs2VsA/R79oFfTu/LizRtGeNjdStwSVRJdMLwx4j9/nKGpBIML =oNsF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9lX6t3oF+YqnBF88IW5b1fr--