From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from cassarossa.samfundet.no (cassarossa.samfundet.no [IPv6:2001:67c:29f4::29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2C4A3B2A4 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 03:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pannekake.samfundet.no ([2001:67c:29f4::50]) by cassarossa.samfundet.no with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dqDlv-00025t-IX for bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:32:19 +0200 Received: from sesse by pannekake.samfundet.no with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dqDlv-0000zn-Ea for bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:32:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:32:15 +0200 From: "Steinar H. Gunderson" To: bloat Message-ID: <20170908073215.dba5utrwuwvruw55@sesse.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux 4.11.12 on a x86_64 User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Subject: Re: [Bloat] dash traffic "chunklets" verses pie and fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:32:21 -0000 On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 04:52:54PM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > good read: > > http://caia.swin.edu.au/cv/jkua/preprint/jkua-icccn2017-chunklets-preprint-10may17.pdf Aaaaa! “For example, FQ-CoDel isolates individual traffic flows into sub-queues then serves each sub-queue with a Deficit Round Robin (DRR) scheduler. The result is relatively even capacity sharing, which may actually be detrimental to a DASH flow (often a single, persistent TCP connection) that is competing with multiple other concurrent TCP flows.” Isn't this just an AQM sabotage scheme? /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: https://www.sesse.net/