From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic311-23.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (sonic311-23.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.244.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 027083CB35 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:55:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1541627709; bh=HZ8ysm2LnK7TC3xIYgnRbIMjSiKLlVpxWr7GcRtaNkw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=DxTfZOhzIjAh4gyqd5lwnUVzRySNTdWfifhYxRRritRtFGbeIt6+AmExXh8ZU0mADCiiwCbh3TazUZFqARcH2QFHLZYxzPWCVB4DWmZz+DQ6Hamtwc981LIurrbVJJ8flfC+ztFHgigZrOG4etFNgIggruERgswyqDHPveL4ZZ/VaqkKUrFBLK3lF50UTCSBH+0S83qvGgIsSVOvXrnB4JJzg7b3CZWGKCQE+DF6QqrWuh0C9dpqvw5IS0c3UAcWhJEzqQnUr+t1MJdeFKi6d59hkdk2VRbmdexLV5YnHwKUd9PrNMJOlf3tOOH4+NHO5tXDmY2DayGoiOJCjudDHQ== X-YMail-OSG: upls6HwVM1lSh9RHRcepoZhWfU9gi8_csXuFp7fpctvDOBvGlZ6Ag_j_6R1hWW5 Me6jTFckjMYpOjhG79IgbbGfALAwnsCqztTQWWyoTwRGBWupGy04WeAgydr06V3UR5LoNwFr1qUv Djg7X9u45xVBUTg00uuWD0DgywMeu.4huB1BXiDi74iNqebYUOyi4FU8Xoxjp.Z7gFOfbnvSYM2_ R_5sfsppWQaXh1acgu_qARSpWqP2mfb1eEPCQSy3iuSLtDCjM7S968zcQmfPbjaYUXm88DK5PmwJ QBt6kaVn9esIyTh8SEdxBEwxv84pbJ82Q5gJVYw3Pcn14RwxfkZx1FiMS_uiacGAi1AtfHWI_Acu tF_YmWEFmQq5kF52GqMqJJFOn5BWlGP3HkKJkLCTbzZ.a5fvQeMrmb8Ex6l7trst.CYiffRk9N8q fE7026BohtPywdQMluoLQc95lGbv2urz385C0lWdAPDH63iXrd2cTbYu.tGTT0mJh3EhK6nhUA7Y RgLlUPMejsfRADRBgPFjZWPHgktBooDr7Nw9BoEMqrA9RNo6Fo5KLmGZSFkpbwOQ_gISnCLJoFzZ .TEIn9kRKMZMIEDXF6y5oGpkvr5UtJ1Sk7cSoOHJQLsMXia66tqrl1b_7Pf7oZ50g1ByLuUzMB.F PpTC5Y6hMer8cF6DT7ZmhNbmwkwmzBZtknLfGOjvSMSIFNCaYKBk.Nl_oc.cF1X6rytnFxqESg5S QHSeJI2Pt4RHlwTB0pfLX5uBAN0p5w39OhxB.nvUg9hqg_aD8t.b6VXPtI7cKEVhBDXESBqs9Zcx elQohKfS7P4q.PhoiSMyBvHn9ETSp1mFm26MYJweGHw1idwhYs_fYy1PqoGjt3037mEye0etqnaS qzw1YDalEMqiJKH3fKcr8WIcL8okAQwpdTxY.5dD3fxBAS1puZ4XjIYQ6F9qc.N5LDSq2e.pyKSZ Gy1h8CVQtheDZbqnxiVbZBNthOHNTB7vfW7pOeijWmdaSE_hUyJ622k8zYFlSOxHBhOcFGIc0l1H gNCGyJjj.fauM6QPZU5x11rnk46xa3wKMDG3x69pNABwRp.OaCtlNrcQDqw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:55:09 +0000 Received: from PPPa3628.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp (EHLO raspberrypi) ([59.157.101.87]) by smtp414.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c38944df77e9003d559feeec29302783; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 21:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:54:56 +0900 From: Y To: Dave Taht Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: <20181108065456.4a743a89@raspberrypi> In-Reply-To: <20181108064830.6c6a9682@raspberrypi> References: <20181105161227.1b63df36@raspberrypi> <87y3a4lma8.fsf@taht.net> <20181108064830.6c6a9682@raspberrypi> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] About Setting Bandwidth limit with or without ethernet overhead? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 21:55:12 -0000 In addition This connection is 1Mbps upload PPPoA via 100Mbps ethernet. Thanks. On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:48:30 +0900 Y wrote: > Hi , Dave > Thank you for your reply. > > I should show you tc-stab setting. > > My connection is PPPoA via ethernet. PC connects ethernet directly. > > ####stab linklayer atm overhead -4 > > I add PPPoA overhead 10 + Ethernet overhead -14 = -4 > But, settled Bandwith is 98% of link speed ( I mean this is > settled bandwidth without ethernet overhead). > > I should shape more? > > Thanks. > > On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 11:28:47 -0800 > Dave Taht wrote: > > > Y writes: > > > > > Hi, I am Yutaka. > > > > > > I connect internet via ethenet. > > > Shoud I set Bandwidth limit with or without ethernet overhead in > > > any qdiscs? > > > When I measured , It seems setting without ethernet overhead is > > > correct. > > > > It depends on your next hop's framing. If you are on ethernet going > > to ethernet, then you should set ethernet. If you are on ethernet, > > going through a cablemodem, set docsis. If you are on ethernet, > > going through dsl or something else, you set the framing > > appropriately. > > > > Without setting the framing appropriately you can run into > > situations where your shaper can be 60% in accurate (dsl). > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bloat mailing list > > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >