From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic313-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic313-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E2113B29D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:17:36 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1597760255; bh=FRNYLRL8Yp+LObcwWAF0cavdhQW+6rcdWyd9ZWyszFg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=tXEkSLPy3qNkufkDFkM8BPsaz0B2kaOfkJNHeerX0Ju6aaGxpf1Fu/DPkjZdRDiiVlLR1kRxfL6WtelCQhi7N4PcnWtpQIDe6vkLi4F5llh9nB4ixbg+q286Y3nBTH/UTg47FvWACQbz8mcWkHvrLerTRr8bnI5x4/M7arVXZyYv7C4hJ55paWHtr87DaNqfcZrTaslDbxjPPqP6SdhGqEAmtaZseS0WI5bJsAppxQi0Zz1XbUz/ejIGOoglPc1f/n0L4JHcp1fxOS/DF3hsibdQR6/A7ydA0EU8q8mu5GaH+AQ5ygq4++DxkjvdFYFOtt4ztd0r9lCFP7dPYT1A+A== X-YMail-OSG: BR1MFq4VM1k23Kwh5qPFDY9fIXjyAYVkKOAqy61Y3_IbEh.FL25IE1LiUFbhznH Em3b3FPbTP1YHAAiL.IR.gyJTg8pd2hK3uZPGPu0Py.Pek2F439TKLodRR25mLOishzel.bk7XBo J.BkUMRBB5G0BHn18tZTdLiGS2Ry.mHjsJ9jG57tdGpbNnP9hG_WbYGSnR4DkIFVQ4jOpmiaF.5e 96xP_ujCLtqv8M8oPX4XKt.IT3jg_x3RKZZmMZou.52xuCMqKMY0FjE11Cu3KM86p4fmppdbetW1 yLw09N4yHlEhKDKJ6.I.2LKKQZP91PsMtiLns.cDsJJb1zroQkGtSJjmtzMzrIBcOG_E974RL_Uu 2Vkn8wdbiNhp7c2fSN.hcJ2oBsmeIejpjmV.QWi5UqV7CUAbtnRnKH5wizGpO2K3Udm3tlzEwy7x _ZlahvBsauWxYRiCiGjwYOmWJzWmNZcm8Xq0M1yGjqncr2ZEa56jo3R7_UZ.m4TYLMu0QBYn8qv0 51j_VvWfbzrGLkzMCVlBBHa3fCyk_6GVFvJKiJDZ9A6_Ag0UtpP07SPJQYGesBOlIitfIAgBr.dm IN3ZVZuHWdn8HDqjnLUzwnFcsf7vFLcOVj0XnX7s629cvUcBK_I25RpunZPVjFP_qgS_gKhWS3zC iMuq07FhXl0XtA8duOhL6NGv9qvVyUA.shJsqrMzZyNQD7cbBioObWS4qNVmpYRGCMvPi34IoaQV XibvlpTuCEA6piEXURocgn1Ru1S_j6NfOY8jumjDQ8Z5eVlAupQeSfjcV2rH.pc7x8aH9rd0qRU. d0vnSjRDIRs6_JO4bQdGtHmoY7cmeHxrh2O_D6hnMx9F01w1b4ciB4ebwTz9XU7vkScwupmaLzsn LLQ98LqEVLI1e6ZCFTFAqUPgvLaPlCGwJqOSgICdPTfrswqRgMXZlAGoGIg7doK6iaLDqlB_SWhj aGOI.fdjDNPh45PVKsBrpVCbUDc1qo55xhqzVP9CEpM9KwKTAcEmDApc3faGrRGN_jd3o8ZaxDwA VQC2aVPltoCdPEwWm24oGzd46fatNQOGGa4iy6Bn9xUC8USuoQKJJ61TqpeMV8jIrpvpqTu0U3Rd 5674007oz06nVhxIDLV4Lm1eBBrGht9fBVFm6neLrU76swzWGuzLFgWF5pvnxtiY56gvJOHSyZ7w sSmRtoCFpMXxGlAqyvVpdufBwnWEoQH1fM8wI.vSi4GSpC4Dxlf5GZ8mu01XEdJJFzd6SpnnA4n6 iWiO_.D8oNJEfTNqSyhFBIE0VveF6fI7nHt5kfH8RE5H.C8wdqRGHWpwpQChJ_a19752gqc.mNHZ WFwjziHbrXz1DO78PPICdSzUkNKOB7IyMB9blrEUs1Q4ThP7aW3t5weF50hh7nkvyt4EY5QenM8E zDWoBPiGX3i.RVzeTcHAyaJUsGB8J_qhQEuW8OByxmiUWF_eVHnyEFh4- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:17:35 +0000 Received: by smtp410.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7ad7f9a9c052ecaa6ed07765b4fa6a1d; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 23:17:14 +0900 From: Y To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: <20200818231714.3d77fbd0@raspberrypi> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] cake + ipv6 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:17:36 -0000 Hi. Did you try to use dual-src(dst)host option? This is my setting. pi@raspberrypi:~ $ tc -s qdisc show dev eth0 qdisc cake 8021: root refcnt 2 bandwidth 831Kbit besteffort dual-srchost nonat nowash ack-filter split-gso rtt 100.0ms atm overhead 10 pi@raspberrypi:~ $ tc -s qdisc show dev ifb4eth0 qdisc cake 8022: root refcnt 2 bandwidth 10833Kbit besteffort dual-dsthost nonat wash ack-filter split-gso rtt 100.0ms atm overhead 10 On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:52:43 -0400 Daniel Sterling wrote: > As you know, I'm here cuz I have an xbox and y'all created cake, which > I am eternally grateful for, since it makes latency go away. > > But I've recently hit an interesting issue -- > > Microsoft (and/or akamai, or whatever) has recently started pushing > updates to the xbox via ipv6 instead of v4. > > As I'm sure you know ipv6 addresses are essentially random on the > internal LAN as compared to v4 -- a box can grab as many v6 addresses > as it wants, and I don't believe my linux router can really know which > box is using which address, can it? > > Which means... ipv6 breaks cake's flow isolation. > > Cake can't throttle all those xbox downloads correctly cuz it doesn't > know they're all going to/from that one device. > > So I suppose this may be similar to the "bittorrent" problem -- which, > is there a general solution for that problem? > > In my case the xbox grabs more than its share of bandwidth, which > means other bulk streaming -- that is to say, youtube and netflix :) > -- stops working well > > I can think of one general solution -- run more wires to more devices, > and give devices their own VLAN, and tag / prioritize / deprioritize > specific traffic that way... > > But.. are there better / more general solutions? > > Thanks, > Dan > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat