From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x102f.google.com (mail-pj1-x102f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 169823B29D for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2023 18:01:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pj1-x102f.google.com with SMTP id cl14so1430983pjb.2 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:01:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=FFU5avNoAm1tDSUT+SUXO209SM+vJoeXM/whzuQFAx8=; b=prxBfRh4UoAiiB77aqSUYx4N4no3QMm4HARgbePeNfQZVxazf4Vc9ymd4Xi+Xu2Ns7 vVuvpIpCnoTLna2BgsDKn6GK/JBs2iNzP/CfH8V4XomYhCnmFC0Ftb5m5sJ3EuFe4DSo JHIwHvojv81KTWBLHavx8IUBHI0VYK2WLeKWpqaSENJVcyNgfbjG29oyVrxgQKUCmVPf 4sPvav0YxAsAQhrTbe9s0tZO+fa6WXsUrXzBQIAtupBsGwMIv52VsL73YpBEeKkHsDM7 l6pI+eAEUA9Y72WqSxMAliPZmow8CW5McNVJdX6vvFtFzayx/Vh7yRXNTV1UyJJtvNNO 2AHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FFU5avNoAm1tDSUT+SUXO209SM+vJoeXM/whzuQFAx8=; b=WjuGIVQpiP4tQ9wjmtCYDqBB0hoPtPwTzKePlK0saQVGWNRCFfCoq2w10DekpGGWWq j8RsJwhRers0W5AamMf/WjfArhAycL+IUdVabYfV+uxaU6j7YXdK47pBZUsMqGkESFUh 2/ZVFYarqJu8DrrnDWS8fQIAJXIYY3i62BfaW0NRlddT7wUmA+StLHpK/s25F/pFEBQJ PoDbiAIOPNqGEK3Rd0wKN2i7mBPL+4KuGSnpNPtlAuosT0FeHf0XXyIbtZgWzF5Gi+pC H2N06f/cTYLew1vcumdIjnL7d+k1+MaymIYLvTCTRL7A5Fqy1vHmwBA4JFSO4KpG6Oz5 IMcA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2krgLd/EzlucGVGDa9u17u6tNyYibym400ADk98AExYhp8W+kl4T icygy4sFdM2ZD72QD9bv2SPjJZq/jRoFcfCkZR4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvJFublVg9wA/Kk6MAc/ZRG/7GtGQtGxsG+rFqZ9d4XomN6Nf6XqTIjKXt+yYfLd/BkpRhnpw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4882:b0:225:b3db:aaee with SMTP id b2-20020a17090a488200b00225b3dbaaeemr47204092pjh.0.1672873258858; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.local (204-195-120-218.wavecable.com. [204.195.120.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v14-20020a17090a4ece00b002194319662asm61983pjl.42.2023.01.04.15.00.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:00:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 15:00:56 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: David Collier-Brown via Bloat Cc: David Collier-Brown Message-ID: <20230104150056.5719dce1@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <0556aa5b-5f86-deb1-c61b-805be105fa24@rogers.com> References: <845161E4-474C-44A9-92D4-1702748A3DA1@jonathanfoulkes.com> <0556aa5b-5f86-deb1-c61b-805be105fa24@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] the grinch meets cloudflare's christmas present X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 23:01:00 -0000 On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 15:11:34 -0500 David Collier-Brown via Bloat wrote: > On 1/4/23 15:02, rjmcmahon via Bloat wrote: > > Curious to why people keep calling capacity tests speed tests? A semi > > at 55 mph isn't faster than a porsche at 141 mph because its load > > volume is larger. > > They're trying to make the results sound more attractive. They know the > customer would prefer a porsche, but what they have to sell them are > semi-trailers. > > --dave > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat Interesting, the cloudflare test gets much worse results than others. It maybe because it defaults to IPV6 by default and ISP does not support real IPV6.