From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw1.uni-kl.de (mailgw1.uni-kl.de [IPv6:2001:638:208:120::220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A7893B29D; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 05:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [IPv6:2001:638:208:ef34:0:ff:fe00:65]) by mailgw1.uni-kl.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id 35S9hHlQ186928 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:43:17 +0200 Received: from sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id 35S9hEWq019265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:43:14 +0200 Received: (from auerswal@localhost) by sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 35S9hDmW019259; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:43:13 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:43:13 +0200 From: Erik Auerswald To: Stephen Hemminger , "David P. Reed" Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: <20230628094313.GA18471@unix-ag.uni-kl.de> References: <1687837319.447910185@mobile.rackspace.com> <20230627075628.1d8d3b7d@hermes.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230627075628.1d8d3b7d@hermes.local> Author: Erik Auerswald X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.009, tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 X-Spam-Score: (-1.009) X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: Re: [Bloat] Two questions re high speed congestion management anddatagram protocols X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:43:19 -0000 Hi, On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 07:56:28AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger via Bloat wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:41:59 -0400 (EDT) > "David P. Reed" wrote: > > > Sorry for top posting, but ... Bigger question: > > Why would DCCP be deprecated by Linux kernel? > > Who makes that decision? Who argues against it? > > No one uses it, and unused protocols are targeted by hackers. > And there are few tests and no maintainer. Perhaps the telephony (3GPP) people use it, there even seems to be some work on extending DCCP with multi-path capabilities: . [That's all I know about this.] Thanks, Erik -- A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't even know existed can render your own computer unusable. -- Leslie Lamport