From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x42d.google.com (mail-pf1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E41903B2A4 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-70b12572bd8so276985b3a.2 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1720651446; x=1721256246; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=O3XKsPxZjdaZJ1VuA4roLw43KFUATQujaq8OsRimh44=; b=Wn82ey5K+OFk59nlE8I991P8lglP9TF7DTlG3IKymB1vI2K6qxaX3e74OMQfGCNY5b 1UwE3nHFyw0SRw9OwfzhEitDgG4eNUjS4GFH4vKz3ReIBZYr3+ITjqWrzEw6kTtTzkrr EIl4oi+MFF2xNu18vTFDNPLy6Q1vkGr7W5IXIzgiDrdAVj0j9HJRDd8ck2zipVuMhCGh lJ9XkiHH4LVX15fWB8GDzxs70ywneowocs0iLshkOMtY2Bx4fBuWtb+jj+Rx+ffodSY1 cbVFY3YVA1JWMHN5qqoLPdot0Rk+0Og+GIRBSDjw+/i8VDlcO+c5TG6sdsNJv1cBtpSH q/wQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1720651446; x=1721256246; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=O3XKsPxZjdaZJ1VuA4roLw43KFUATQujaq8OsRimh44=; b=lgzjQXzUVKsBFqQZSaPJNeqAUOdpdLgQ8weumkWOzQ/1cMjDC8fAzgsuWWpIj+/8pQ etkqKfl/e2uWTtlzSG642z37H6FybDCy7GhlwpZJn25KEkGnr2vWvO2A+uDoCMBx+aY4 rz906eBCfw6iT22vfxBTfUngsx/GyIS7tg1aglBoWsGYnXllK/AMmFmf3+SLzOwPiVbk gybiF43ZAflsfb0x74g+qTwtNfMPYxC5A1cH3Oj/d+0gZiLNDefIgGhTz02D6Vb7lbFF x1bVySBZ/TzIKwNx0Esm8aWWa0EaYbZWsVIwn0Yk7M52+eV7czvilPiHBld0EZYTJudr YTLA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzy2sRDwrwYeVXyykwFzRxoduR3Gc5YA73aeOQEzzL9Gyy2175b 20UWmj+S+ue8RTlzEK8jxsYpxxj8Fz7kr6Z52XERwSClb3/dnUUE82VvlUdSwf5j2R5XVWhL6MD F X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFjhlIW7NgFUNci98O7F0fDV2WGdIar+0sLoJ627ZfKI3k1kWMS8ER5RMe6grTgmhFKmNCvQg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1d1a:b0:70b:14b4:b5de with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-70b4364ffc7mr6825723b3a.23.1720651445834; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.local (204-195-96-226.wavecable.com. [204.195.96.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 41be03b00d2f7-77d5edcdec1sm3375891a12.6.2024.07.10.15.44.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:44:03 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Dave Taht via Bloat Cc: Dave Taht , David Collier-Brown Message-ID: <20240710154403.5b49c902@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: References: <9c5cb462-56ab-4a1d-a971-6cb1f437ced8@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fwd: [CCWG] ETC: An Elastic Transmission Control Using End-to-End Available Bandwidth Perception X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:44:07 -0000 On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:28:28 -0700 Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 3:11=E2=80=AFPM David Collier-Brown via Bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: =20 >=20 > > One of those papers that make you go "why didn't I think of that?" > > > > Of course, it does have to work (;-)) > > =20 >=20 > No sources, no email addresses, I am tempted to drop in on the conference > to see if any source is available. >=20 > There are a lot of ideas in there that I have been advocating a while - > varying the pacing rate (e!) to get an early estimate of congestion - and > quite a few more newer ones that seem excellent, like just treating the > leading edge of an ack as part of the estimator. Love how well it compet= es > with itself! >=20 > It's just a paper... no sources... agggh.... Poking around a little, author seems to be associated with: FutureWei Technolgies http://futurewei.com Which has various Open Source marketing stuff in their vision but no github or download links.