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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: David Collier-Brown via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: David Collier-Brown <davec-b@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] fcc request for standardized speed testing
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:42:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241219084217.46016974@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0795300a-f3c4-4b7c-bd06-99d43de0a07b@rogers.com>

On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:31:08 -0500
David Collier-Brown via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On 12/18/24 17:17, David Lang via Bloat wrote:
> > so, what happens when a standardized test is mandated and then it's 
> > found that that test isn't as good as others?
> >
> > I'm leery of any government mandates.  
> 
> Governments in general are good a "policing" things*, such as 
> deficiencies in specifications and persons trying to weasel around them.
> 
> At the same time, good specifiers write in "or better" clauses so that 
> subsequent standards can be a few lines added to the original work.
> 
> We can tell that is broken in Canada when the CRTC does a request for 
> comments ... but then rejects all the comments and proposed amendments. 
> Oh, and resists publishing them (:-))
> 
> Have you seen that in the US?
> 
> --dave

And it will just create benchmark cheating...
Look at any of the standardized database benchmarks as an example.
The benchmark starts out trying to an express a workload; then the vendors
discover new and creative ways to get higher numbers.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-19 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-18 20:41 Dave Taht
2024-12-18 22:17 ` David Lang
2024-12-19 16:31   ` David Collier-Brown
2024-12-19 16:42     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2024-12-19 16:53       ` David Collier-Brown
2024-12-19 22:59   ` Michael Richardson
2024-12-20  0:19 ` Kenneth Porter
2024-12-20  1:05   ` David Collier-Brown

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