[Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Frantisek Borsik]

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Hello to all,

We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
<https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>

Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
wouldn’t exist.

Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.

Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
open source, for the betterment of humanity.

Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
and helped so many.

We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
He will be dearly missed.

*PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
production!

*https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
<https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik



https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik

Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714

iMessage, mobile: +420775230885

Skype: casioa5302ca

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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Vint Cerf]

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OMG - that is truly terrible news! I could not say better than Frank
already has how much Dave's work has helped to improve our experience of
the Internet. I can't think of anyone more dedicated to the proposition
that performance counts and should be pursued with determination and
vigor.  I've known Dave for many years and greatly valued his counsel and
technical skills - to say nothing of his healthy sense of humor. I will
miss him but will be always grateful to have known him.

vint cerf


On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 1:26 PM Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always
> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions
> out there) wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <+421%20919%20416%20714>
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 <+420%20775%20230%20885>
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>


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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Michiel Leenaars]

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Hi all,

that is indeed shocking news. He was on the board of The Commons Conservancy since its inception, and currently working on a grant from NLnet - so we were in very regular contact. And of course all over every mailinglist.

With his mother only having passed away a few months after much caretaking, he was finding a new life. And now this, way too early.

You will be sorely missed, man.

Best,
Michiel

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 01:31:08PM -0400, Vint Cerf via Starlink wrote:
>OMG - that is truly terrible news! I could not say better than Frank
>already has how much Dave's work has helped to improve our experience of
>the Internet. I can't think of anyone more dedicated to the proposition
>that performance counts and should be pursued with determination and
>vigor.  I've known Dave for many years and greatly valued his counsel and
>technical skills - to say nothing of his healthy sense of humor. I will
>miss him but will be always grateful to have known him.
>
>vint cerf
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 1:26 PM Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <
>starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>>
>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
>> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always
>> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions
>> out there) wouldn’t exist.
>>
>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
>> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>>
>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
>> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
>> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
>> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
>> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
>> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
>> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
>> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
>> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
>> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
>> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>>
>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
>> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
>> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
>> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
>> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
>> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
>> and helped so many.
>>
>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
>> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
>> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
>> He will be dearly missed.
>>
>> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
>> production!
>>
>> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>>
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <+421%20919%20416%20714>
>>
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 <+420%20775%20230%20885>
>>
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>>
>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Starlink mailing list
>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>>
>
>
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>
>
>until further notice

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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Jim Gettys]

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I am overwhelmed.

When I was a lone voice in the wilderness daunted by bufferbloat, Dave, an
acquaintance from handheld.org days, came to my aid,
and continued the quest to improve the Internet in my absence.

As a colleague he will be sorely missed.

As a valued friend, I will grieve his absence.

I had so looked forward to enjoying future rocket events with him, and
seeing humanity expand into the solar system.

Jim Gettys

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 1:26 PM Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always
> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions
> out there) wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>

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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Joel Wirāmu Pauling]

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I met Dave a couple of times and convinced him to talk at our Little ol New
Zealand Network Operators Conference on occasion.

I enjoyed working with Dave on customizing openwrt bits for bufferbloat
issues and attempting to scale up to gigabit fibre speeds on less than
capable consumer hardware. He was always quick to reply and offer; advice,
anecdotes and opines without ego.

He will be missed.


-Joel





On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 at 06:31, Vint Cerf via Cerowrt-devel <
cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>
> To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
> Cc: libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <
> bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Taht via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Jeremy Austin via Rpm <
> rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net, Cake List <
> cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, codel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net, codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, "Network
> Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io>,
> "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io>, "Robert Chacón" <
> robert@libreqos.io>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 13:31:08 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
> OMG - that is truly terrible news! I could not say better than Frank
> already has how much Dave's work has helped to improve our experience of
> the Internet. I can't think of anyone more dedicated to the proposition
> that performance counts and should be pursued with determination and
> vigor.  I've known Dave for many years and greatly valued his counsel and
> technical skills - to say nothing of his healthy sense of humor. I will
> miss him but will be always grateful to have known him.
>
> vint cerf
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 1:26 PM Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>>
>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
>> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always
>> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions
>> out there) wouldn’t exist.
>>
>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to
>> family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>>
>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
>> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
>> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
>> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
>> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
>> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
>> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
>> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
>> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
>> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
>> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>>
>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
>> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
>> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
>> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
>> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
>> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
>> and helped so many.
>>
>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
>> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
>> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
>> He will be dearly missed.
>>
>> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
>> production!
>>
>> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>>
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <+421%20919%20416%20714>
>>
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 <+420%20775%20230%20885>
>>
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>>
>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Starlink mailing list
>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>>
>
>
> --
> Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
> Vint Cerf
> Google, LLC
> 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
> Reston, VA 20190
> +1 (571) 213 1346
>
>
> until further notice
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vint Cerf via Cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
> Cc: codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net, Jeremy Austin via Rpm <
> rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>, cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, libreqos <
> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Taht via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io>,
> "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io>, "Network Neutrality is
> back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>, codel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net, "Robert Chacón" <robert@libreqos.io>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Stuart Cheshire]

Dave Täht was a good friend and a mentor to me and so many others. He inspired me to focus much of my time and effort in the last decade to his vision of a faster Internet experience for everyone through lower network latency. The results of Dave’s work are finally coming to fruition, and those he taught will continue his work transforming how the Internet operates and improving the lives of countless millions of people worldwide.

Stuart Cheshire

On Apr 1, 2025, at 10:27, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> 
> All the best,
> 
> FrankFrantisek (Frank) Borsik
>  https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
> Skype: casioa5302ca
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Sebastian Moeller]

Sad news day. 

Learned so much from Dave about the network about the importance of sharing ideas, and not to take one self too seriously. 
Will miss you my friend...

Sebastian Moeller




> On 1. Apr 2025, at 19:57, Stuart Cheshire via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Dave Täht was a good friend and a mentor to me and so many others. He inspired me to focus much of my time and effort in the last decade to his vision of a faster Internet experience for everyone through lower network latency. The results of Dave’s work are finally coming to fruition, and those he taught will continue his work transforming how the Internet operates and improving the lives of countless millions of people worldwide.
> 
> Stuart Cheshire
> 
> On Apr 1, 2025, at 10:27, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hello to all,
>> 
>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>> 
>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
>> 
>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>> 
>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>> 
>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
>> 
>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
>> 
>> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
>> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> FrankFrantisek (Frank) Borsik
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Oleg Kutkov]

Terrible news... Such a loss.
Dave was a wonderful person.

Rest in Peace.

-- 
Oleg Kutkov

On 4/1/25 21:36, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote:
> Sad news day.
>
> Learned so much from Dave about the network about the importance of sharing ideas, and not to take one self too seriously.
> Will miss you my friend...
>
> Sebastian Moeller
>
>
>
>
>> On 1. Apr 2025, at 19:57, Stuart Cheshire via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dave Täht was a good friend and a mentor to me and so many others. He inspired me to focus much of my time and effort in the last decade to his vision of a faster Internet experience for everyone through lower network latency. The results of Dave’s work are finally coming to fruition, and those he taught will continue his work transforming how the Internet operates and improving the lives of countless millions of people worldwide.
>>
>> Stuart Cheshire
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2025, at 10:27, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello to all,
>>>
>>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>>>
>>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
>>>
>>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>>>
>>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>>>
>>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
>>>
>>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
>>>
>>> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
>>> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> FrankFrantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Jim Forster]

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Wow!  That’s really sad.  Dave was pretty amazing, and I’m glad that we met,  His contributions to the net will continue even without him.

  — Jim

> On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:27 PM, Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away. <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>  <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
> 
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 
> 
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
> 
> Skype: casioa5302ca
> 
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Simon Barber]

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Shocking and terrible news indeed. Dave’s unrelenting dedication to fixing the internet was inspirational. I’m sad to not have the chance to work with him again, and I’ll miss the songs and guitar playing.

Simon


> On Apr 1, 2025, at 10:27 AM, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away. <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>  <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
> 
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 
> 
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
> 
> Skype: casioa5302ca
> 
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:27:36 +0200
Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
> wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
> 
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
> 
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
> 
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
> 
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
> 
> Skype: casioa5302ca
> 
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com

This comes a shock, had not seen Dave in over a year.
He was such an inspiration and always made me happy even in the worst times.
When I was recovering from chemotherapy and stem cell transplant treatment,
Dave came to visit me in the hospital. Which was quite a surprise.
I had always hoped that I could return the favor some day.

Also, remember when Toke and I visited him at the Lodge and we both
brought laptops (and not towels).

He also inspired me to keep going with the Bufferbloat water demonstrations.

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Loganaden Velvindron]

I can't believe this. He helped me work on 3com bql in linux. I'm
still deeply shocked.


On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 at 21:26, Frantisek Borsik via Cake
<cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
>
> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Toke Høiland-Jørgensen]

Absolutely devastating news. He will be missed! It was an honour to know
him and work with him; he was a kind and generous person who selflessly
dedicated his time to making the internet a better place for us all.

Wrote a bit of a longer farewell note here:
https://blog.tohojo.dk/2025/04/remembering-dave-t%C3%A4ht.html

-Toke


Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> writes:

> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
> wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Sina Khanifar]

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Oh gosh. What a huge loss. Dave was a very special kind of person.

I feel sad sad but also grateful that humanity occasionally produces people like Dave (and many of you on this list) who push so hard to make the world and the Internet better.

Rest in peace, and thank you, Dave.

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 1:32 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen < bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Absolutely devastating news. He will be missed! It was an honour to know
> him and work with him; he was a kind and generous person who selflessly
> dedicated his time to making the internet a better place for us all.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wrote a bit of a longer farewell note here:
> https:/ / blog. tohojo. dk/ 2025/ 04/ remembering-dave-t%C3%A4ht. html (
> https://blog.tohojo.dk/2025/04/remembering-dave-t%C3%A4ht.html )
> 
> 
> 
> -Toke
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Frantisek Borsik via Bloat < bloat@ lists. bufferbloat. net (
> bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net ) > writes:
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello to all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>> < https:/ / libreqos. io/ 2025/ 04/ 01/ in-loving-memory-of-dave/ (
>> https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/ ) >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
>> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always
>> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions
>> out there) wouldn’t exist.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
>> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
>> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
>> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
>> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and
>> community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who
>> lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable
>> access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through
>> FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are
>> millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently
>> enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the
>> world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of
>> humanity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
>> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
>> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
>> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
>> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
>> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
>> and helped so many.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
>> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
>> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
>> He will be dearly missed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
>> production!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *https:// github. com/ LibreQoE/ LibreQoS/ pull/ 684 (
>> http://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684 )
>> < https:/ / github. com/ LibreQoE/ LibreQoS/ pull/ 684 (
>> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684 ) >*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https:/ / www. linkedin. com/ in/ frantisekborsik (
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik )
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> frantisek. borsik@ gmail. com ( frantisek.borsik@gmail.com )
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Georgios Amanakis]

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I am deeply moved by his passing, what a sad day. We got to know each other
when I came across CAKE and contributed somewhat to the team efforts back
in 2016-2018, when I was in the US. He is deeply missed but his impact
echoes on in 'every packet that flows a little bit more fairly'.

George Amanakis

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025, 10:32 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Absolutely devastating news. He will be missed! It was an honour to know
> him and work with him; he was a kind and generous person who selflessly
> dedicated his time to making the internet a better place for us all.
>
> Wrote a bit of a longer farewell note here:
> https://blog.tohojo.dk/2025/04/remembering-dave-t%C3%A4ht.html
>
> -Toke
>
>
> Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> writes:
>
> > Hello to all,
> >
> > We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> > <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> >
> > Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
> fighting
> > bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing
> to
> > help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
> > wouldn’t exist.
> >
> > Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to
> family
> > and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> >
> > Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
> and
> > CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> > people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> > video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and
> community.
> > One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> > far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> > doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was
> only
> > made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> > hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection
> and
> > safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free
> and
> > open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> >
> > Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> > enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> > such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> > ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> > FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> > access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> > and helped so many.
> >
> > We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> > someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> > for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> > He will be dearly missed.
> >
> > *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> > production!
> >
> > *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> > <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
> >
> > Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
> >
> > iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
> >
> > Skype: casioa5302ca
> >
> > frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bloat mailing list
> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Nishanth Sastry]

So sorry to hear.. I still remember him entertaining us with his guitar online during a lockdown-period hybrid workshop we did on Starlink and other space-based networks. You will be sorely missed, Dave. RIP!

Best Wishes
nishanth

On 1 Apr 2025, at 18:27, Frantisek Borsik via Starlink wrote:

> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
> wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684> *
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink

Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[David Lang]

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He will be missed.

As a practical question, what is going to happen to all of these lists, etc that 
he has been hosting?

David Lang

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:27:36 +0200
> From: Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Reply-To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
> To: libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     Jeremy Austin via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>     cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>     codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>     Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this
>     time! <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Cc: Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io>,
>     "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io>,
>     Robert Chacón <robert@libreqos.io>
> Subject: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
> 
> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
> wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>

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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Spencer Sevilla]

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I didn’t get a chance to know Dave personally, but sincerely appreciated his insight and technical efforts, as well as the way he just seemed to put out joy in so many forms. I have said multiple times that these listservs have some of the highest quality networking discussion out there, and I think this is in no small part a testament to Dave’s ability to bring people together and get them talking.

I would certainly be willing to help support or volunteer effort to keep these listservs running.

> On Apr 1, 2025, at 18:21, David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> He will be missed.
> 
> As a practical question, what is going to happen to all of these lists, etc that he has been hosting?
> 
> David Lang
> 
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
> 
>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:27:36 +0200
>> From: Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>>
>> Reply-To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com <mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>>
>> To: libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>>,
>>    bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>>,
>>    Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>>,
>>    Jeremy Austin via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>>,
>>    bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>>,
>>    codel@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>, cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>, cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>>,
>>    Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this
>>    time! <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>>
>> Cc: Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io <mailto:hwolverson@libreqos.io>>,
>>    "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io <mailto:frank@libreqos.io>>,
>>    Robert Chacón <robert@libreqos.io <mailto:robert@libreqos.io>>
>> Subject: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
>> Hello to all,
>> 
>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>> 
>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
>> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
>> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
>> wouldn’t exist.
>> 
>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
>> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>> 
>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
>> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
>> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
>> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
>> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
>> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
>> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
>> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
>> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
>> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
>> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>> 
>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
>> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
>> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
>> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
>> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
>> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
>> and helped so many.
>> 
>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
>> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
>> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
>> He will be dearly missed.
>> 
>> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
>> production!
>> 
>> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>> 
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>> 
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>> 
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>> 
>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Omer Shapira]

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So sad to hear that Dave passed away.

I worked with him briefly when he was consulting with us, and he was a
tremendous help when I was setting up the IAB workshop on network quality.

Dave managed to be kind and stubborn at the same time. Like many people, I
learned a lot, and yet not enough from him.

Omer.

P.S. I still hope to wake up tomorrow and to learn that this was an April
Fools joke.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 7:12 PM Spencer Sevilla via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> I didn’t get a chance to know Dave personally, but sincerely appreciated
> his insight and technical efforts, as well as the way he just seemed to put
> out joy in so many forms. I have said multiple times that these listservs
> have some of the highest quality networking discussion out there, and I
> think this is in no small part a testament to Dave’s ability to bring
> people together and get them talking.
>
> I would certainly be willing to help support or volunteer effort to keep
> these listservs running.
>
> On Apr 1, 2025, at 18:21, David Lang via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> He will be missed.
>
> As a practical question, what is going to happen to all of these lists,
> etc that he has been hosting?
>
> David Lang
>
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:27:36 +0200
> From: Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Reply-To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
> To: libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>    bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>    Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>    Jeremy Austin via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>    bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >,
>    codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>    cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>    codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>    Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>    Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this
>    time! <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Cc: Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io>,
>    "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io>,
>    Robert Chacón <robert@libreqos.io>
> Subject: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
> wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>
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-- 
Sincerely Yours,
 Omer Shapira

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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[J Pan]

knew dave's work and interacted with him on starlink (he helped us map
the starlink backbone from the lax pop and planned to donate his dish
to a ucsb student project too). rip, dave!
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 9:20 PM Omer Shapira via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> So sad to hear that Dave passed away.
>
> I worked with him briefly when he was consulting with us, and he was a tremendous help when I was setting up the IAB workshop on network quality.
>
> Dave managed to be kind and stubborn at the same time. Like many people, I learned a lot, and yet not enough from him.
>
> Omer.
>
> P.S. I still hope to wake up tomorrow and to learn that this was an April Fools joke.
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 7:12 PM Spencer Sevilla via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> I didn’t get a chance to know Dave personally, but sincerely appreciated his insight and technical efforts, as well as the way he just seemed to put out joy in so many forms. I have said multiple times that these listservs have some of the highest quality networking discussion out there, and I think this is in no small part a testament to Dave’s ability to bring people together and get them talking.
>>
>> I would certainly be willing to help support or volunteer effort to keep these listservs running.
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2025, at 18:21, David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> He will be missed.
>>
>> As a practical question, what is going to happen to all of these lists, etc that he has been hosting?
>>
>> David Lang
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
>>
>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:27:36 +0200
>> From: Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> Reply-To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
>> To: libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    Jeremy Austin via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>>    cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>>    codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>>    Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>>    Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this
>>    time! <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> Cc: Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io>,
>>    "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io>,
>>    Robert Chacón <robert@libreqos.io>
>> Subject: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
>> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>>
>> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting
>> bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to
>> help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there)
>> wouldn’t exist.
>>
>> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
>> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>>
>> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and
>> CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
>> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
>> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
>> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
>> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
>> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
>> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
>> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
>> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
>> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>>
>> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
>> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
>> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
>> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
>> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
>> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
>> and helped so many.
>>
>> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
>> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
>> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
>> He will be dearly missed.
>>
>> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
>> production!
>>
>> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>>
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>>
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>>
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>>
>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely Yours,
>  Omer Shapira
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Toke Høiland-Jørgensen]

David Lang via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> writes:

> As a practical question, what is going to happen to all of these
> lists, etc that he has been hosting?

We'll find a way to keep them going. Dave already started a discussion
about this a year ago, but it kinda fizzled out. We'll get that effort
up and running again; several people already offered to help (thanks!).

Will post more details once we have them.

-Toke

Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Livingood, Jason]

Very sad news indeed! I had the pleasure of working closely with Dave for 15 years. He was generous with his time and had a unique way of bringing people together to make the internet better for everyone!


I had to go down memory lane to recall when I first really started working with him. It may have been around 2010 or so. In 2012, I started sending funds his way via my day job to help him and his merry network of collaborators work to develop the CoDel AQM. 


Funding him was not necessarily easy, as Dave had a unique way of working and was best when he had complete autonomy and only loosely outlined goals - typically hard to sell in a big company. But he could make things happen, so it worked. And I knew when he started complaining about maintenance needs on his boat, or the need to recruit a new person to the project, or about a great new (and practical!) idea, that it was time to top up his funding. ;-)


That initial CoDel support in 2012 was extended to underwrite work on his idea to develop RRUL, the first real working latency test that I can remember (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/RRUL_Spec/ <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/RRUL_Spec/>). He was also helpful in introducing me to Simon Kelley, developer of dnsmasq, so we could underwrite some IPv6 features in dnsmasq (and Dave convinced Simon to come to an IETF meeting to help gather requirements and meet folks). 


Dave got CoDel working, so we developed a compelling demo of CoDel on a DOCSIS network (via a CeroWrt-based router connected to a cable modem) and brought him along to IETF-86 in March 2013 in Orlando - see interview with Dave at https://youtu.be/NuHYOu4aAqg?si=p0SJHLNpp_6n7XP9&t=195 <https://youtu.be/NuHYOu4aAqg?si=p0SJHLNpp_6n7XP9&amp;t=195>. 


From 2014-2017, I was able to make additional financial support happen for him, so he could do R&D into how to improve buffer bloat in WiFi network links and equipment, a project he called "Make WiFi Fast". In 2020-2021 and 2024, I found funding for his work again, this time to work on accelerating AQM adoption in the real world & work related to the CAKE AQM.


Thanks in part to my longstanding collaboration with Dave, tens of millions of DOCSIS users in our network have AQM and thus far better network responsiveness. The same is true for AQMs he worked on, CeroWrt, LibreQoS, and other projects. He succeeded in his goal to make the internet better for everyone!


We will miss you, Dave!


Jason

Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Daniel Sterling]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 10:00 AM Livingood, Jason via Bloat
<bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> He succeeded in his goal to make the internet better for everyone!

This cannot be overstated. We owe Dave a huge debt of gratitude for
all his tireless work helping anyone and everyone improve their
network, from the smallest to the largest.

He will be missed.

I can only hope others that can will continue to hold the torch in his
name, bringing better latency and better internet to everyone

-- Dan

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[David P. Reed]

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Hi all -
 
I've already shared my sadness and appreciation of my good friend Dave on LinkedIn.
I met him through Jim Gettys at the beginning of the Bufferbloat discovery, and besides our long correspondence, I hope I have given him enough support over the years - including introducing him to my network of friends, some of whom are on this list. Others he found by himself. 
He's been a one-person social network out there, who got things done beyond what institutions seem to be able to do. (And he amazed me by managing to get a stodgy IETF crowd to pay attention to the congestion control issue, despite much institutional resistance, and academic networking researchers who never got the point). Of course, Jason Livingood worked behind the scenes very hard to bypass corporate resistance, too.

Also, I can share something that few knew about - I brought Dave into an ex parte policy discussion at the FCC about an idea being promoted that the FCC should require all routers the FCC certified to have a complete "locked down" configuration that could not be changed by users. I got brought in because of my FCC TAC involvement around Software Defined Radio. But the folks behind the proposal were just using that as an excuse - they wanted really to block WISPs by raising the cost of WiFi routers. Dave, who knew more than anything why re-flashing routers made them MORE secure and could explain it in a disarming way to lawyers and policymakers, managed to get the commissioners to understand that security wasn't something the FCC could certify, and also why commercial routers weren't at all secure. He was so much better at explaining in what you might call an inclusive, folksy way that he changed the FCC's approach significantly - away from Certifying Security entirely. (The SDR issue ended up not being relevant to routers, though SDR is still a complex policy issue that is holding back innovation in wireless systems.) I'm certain Dave has had much impact of this sort.
 
However, Dave's passing s very frustrating to me because of two things:
 
1) there is no one who can replace Dave. The things he made happen will continue, but he was only getting started on issues like improving WiFi. Again, the resistance to improving WiFi is both institutional and corporate, and researchers won't challenge the institutional and corporate shibboleths that get in the way of solving critical problems in the 802.11 implementation and systems architecture domain. (Unfortunately, WiFi has become a political term that is being used by "wireless" operators and their suppliers to fight for or against monopoly control of the airwaves, very parallel to the problems of getting engineering solutions on Internet fabric that deal with congestion. So it can't be done in the institutions and corporations focused away from the engineering challenges. That's why Dave was needed.)

2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)  Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official histories.

I was hoping (before this week) to try to 
On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 09:59, "Livingood, Jason via Cake" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> said:



> Very sad news indeed! I had the pleasure of working closely with Dave for 15
> years. He was generous with his time and had a unique way of bringing people
> together to make the internet better for everyone!
> 
> 
> I had to go down memory lane to recall when I first really started working with
> him. It may have been around 2010 or so. In 2012, I started sending funds his way
> via my day job to help him and his merry network of collaborators work to develop
> the CoDel AQM.
> 
> 
> Funding him was not necessarily easy, as Dave had a unique way of working and was
> best when he had complete autonomy and only loosely outlined goals - typically
> hard to sell in a big company. But he could make things happen, so it worked. And
> I knew when he started complaining about maintenance needs on his boat, or the
> need to recruit a new person to the project, or about a great new (and practical!)
> idea, that it was time to top up his funding. ;-)
> 
> 
> That initial CoDel support in 2012 was extended to underwrite work on his idea to
> develop RRUL, the first real working latency test that I can remember
> (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/RRUL_Spec/
> <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/RRUL_Spec/>). He was also
> helpful in introducing me to Simon Kelley, developer of dnsmasq, so we could
> underwrite some IPv6 features in dnsmasq (and Dave convinced Simon to come to an
> IETF meeting to help gather requirements and meet folks).
> 
> 
> Dave got CoDel working, so we developed a compelling demo of CoDel on a DOCSIS
> network (via a CeroWrt-based router connected to a cable modem) and brought him
> along to IETF-86 in March 2013 in Orlando - see interview with Dave at
> https://youtu.be/NuHYOu4aAqg?si=p0SJHLNpp_6n7XP9&t=195
> <https://youtu.be/NuHYOu4aAqg?si=p0SJHLNpp_6n7XP9&t=195>.
> 
> 
> From 2014-2017, I was able to make additional financial support happen for him, so
> he could do R&D into how to improve buffer bloat in WiFi network links and
> equipment, a project he called "Make WiFi Fast". In 2020-2021 and 2024, I found
> funding for his work again, this time to work on accelerating AQM adoption in the
> real world & work related to the CAKE AQM.
> 
> 
> Thanks in part to my longstanding collaboration with Dave, tens of millions of
> DOCSIS users in our network have AQM and thus far better network responsiveness.
> The same is true for AQMs he worked on, CeroWrt, LibreQoS, and other projects. He
> succeeded in his goal to make the internet better for everyone!
> 
> 
> We will miss you, Dave!
> 
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Cake mailing list
> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> 

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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[the keyboard of geoff goodfellow]

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vis-a-vis* "**thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
contributions" ➔➔ *At The Very Least Dave should immediately
be posthumously nominated to The InternetHallOfFame.org as Dave Most
Certainly Qualifies For *"Recognizing the People **Who Bring the Internet
to Life"*

geoff

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 12:52 PM David P. Reed via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hi all -
>
>
>
> I've already shared my sadness and appreciation of my good friend Dave on
> LinkedIn.
>
> I met him through Jim Gettys at the beginning of the Bufferbloat
> discovery, and besides our long correspondence, I hope I have given him
> enough support over the years - including introducing him to my network of
> friends, some of whom are on this list. Others he found by himself.
> He's been a one-person social network out there, who got things done
> beyond what institutions seem to be able to do. (And he amazed me by
> managing to get a stodgy IETF crowd to pay attention to the congestion
> control issue, despite much institutional resistance, and academic
> networking researchers who never got the point). Of course, Jason Livingood
> worked behind the scenes very hard to bypass corporate resistance, too.
>
> Also, I can share something that few knew about - I brought Dave into an
> ex parte policy discussion at the FCC about an idea being promoted that the
> FCC should require all routers the FCC certified to have a complete "locked
> down" configuration that could not be changed by users. I got brought in
> because of my FCC TAC involvement around Software Defined Radio. But the
> folks behind the proposal were just using that as an excuse - they wanted
> really to block WISPs by raising the cost of WiFi routers. Dave, who knew
> more than anything why re-flashing routers made them MORE secure and could
> explain it in a disarming way to lawyers and policymakers, managed to get
> the commissioners to understand that security wasn't something the FCC
> could certify, and also why commercial routers weren't at all secure. He
> was so much better at explaining in what you might call an inclusive,
> folksy way that he changed the FCC's approach significantly - away from
> Certifying Security entirely. (The SDR issue ended up not being relevant to
> routers, though SDR is still a complex policy issue that is holding back
> innovation in wireless systems.) I'm certain Dave has had much impact of
> this sort.
>
>
>
> However, Dave's passing s very frustrating to me because of two things:
>
>
>
> 1) there is no one who can replace Dave. The things he made happen will
> continue, but he was only getting started on issues like improving WiFi.
> Again, the resistance to improving WiFi is both institutional and
> corporate, and researchers won't challenge the institutional and corporate
> shibboleths that get in the way of solving critical problems in the 802.11
> implementation and systems architecture domain. (Unfortunately, WiFi has
> become a political term that is being used by "wireless" operators and
> their suppliers to fight for or against monopoly control of the airwaves,
> very parallel to the problems of getting engineering solutions on Internet
> fabric that deal with congestion. So it can't be done in the institutions
> and corporations focused away from the engineering challenges. That's why
> Dave was needed.)
>
> 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
> contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some
> other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid
> Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When
> Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet
> pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)
> Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History
> Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know
> of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or
> Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we
> think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official
> histories.
>
> I was hoping (before this week) to try to
>
> On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 09:59, "Livingood, Jason via Cake" <
> cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> said:
>
> > Very sad news indeed! I had the pleasure of working closely with Dave
> for 15
> > years. He was generous with his time and had a unique way of bringing
> people
> > together to make the internet better for everyone!
> >
> >
> > I had to go down memory lane to recall when I first really started
> working with
> > him. It may have been around 2010 or so. In 2012, I started sending
> funds his way
> > via my day job to help him and his merry network of collaborators work
> to develop
> > the CoDel AQM.
> >
> >
> > Funding him was not necessarily easy, as Dave had a unique way of
> working and was
> > best when he had complete autonomy and only loosely outlined goals -
> typically
> > hard to sell in a big company. But he could make things happen, so it
> worked. And
> > I knew when he started complaining about maintenance needs on his boat,
> or the
> > need to recruit a new person to the project, or about a great new (and
> practical!)
> > idea, that it was time to top up his funding. ;-)
> >
> >
> > That initial CoDel support in 2012 was extended to underwrite work on
> his idea to
> > develop RRUL, the first real working latency test that I can remember
> > (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/RRUL_Spec/
> > <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/RRUL_Spec/>). He was
> also
> > helpful in introducing me to Simon Kelley, developer of dnsmasq, so we
> could
> > underwrite some IPv6 features in dnsmasq (and Dave convinced Simon to
> come to an
> > IETF meeting to help gather requirements and meet folks).
> >
> >
> > Dave got CoDel working, so we developed a compelling demo of CoDel on a
> DOCSIS
> > network (via a CeroWrt-based router connected to a cable modem) and
> brought him
> > along to IETF-86 in March 2013 in Orlando - see interview with Dave at
> > https://youtu.be/NuHYOu4aAqg?si=p0SJHLNpp_6n7XP9&t=195
> > <https://youtu.be/NuHYOu4aAqg?si=p0SJHLNpp_6n7XP9&t=195>.
> >
> >
> > From 2014-2017, I was able to make additional financial support happen
> for him, so
> > he could do R&D into how to improve buffer bloat in WiFi network links
> and
> > equipment, a project he called "Make WiFi Fast". In 2020-2021 and 2024,
> I found
> > funding for his work again, this time to work on accelerating AQM
> adoption in the
> > real world & work related to the CAKE AQM.
> >
> >
> > Thanks in part to my longstanding collaboration with Dave, tens of
> millions of
> > DOCSIS users in our network have AQM and thus far better network
> responsiveness.
> > The same is true for AQMs he worked on, CeroWrt, LibreQoS, and other
> projects. He
> > succeeded in his goal to make the internet better for everyone!
> >
> >
> > We will miss you, Dave!
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>


-- 
Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com
living as The Truth is True

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Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Loganaden Velvindron]

>
> 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)  Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official histories.

He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
IETF.

Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Vint Cerf]

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He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think?
v


On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45 AM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
> contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some
> other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid
> Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When
> Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet
> pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)
> Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History
> Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know
> of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or
> Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we
> think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official
> histories.
>
> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
> years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
> IETF.
>


-- 
Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
Vint Cerf
Google, LLC
1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
Reston, VA 20190
+1 (571) 213 1346


until further notice

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Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Loganaden Velvindron]

Definitely :-)

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 15:12, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
>
> He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think?
> v
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45 AM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)  Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official histories.
>>
>> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
>> years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
>> IETF.
>
>
>
> --
> Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
> Vint Cerf
> Google, LLC
> 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
> Reston, VA 20190
> +1 (571) 213 1346
>
>
> until further notice
>
>
>

Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Frantisek Borsik]

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Lovely. So how we can put it in motion? :) Who would be the best person to
do it?


All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik


*In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025

https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/


https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik

Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714

iMessage, mobile: +420775230885

Skype: casioa5302ca

frantisek.borsik@gmail.com


On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:17 PM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Definitely :-)
>
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 15:12, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think?
> > v
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45 AM Loganaden Velvindron <
> loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
> contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some
> other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid
> Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When
> Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet
> pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)
> Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History
> Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know
> of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or
> Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we
> think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official
> histories.
> >>
> >> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
> >> years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
> >> IETF.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
> > Vint Cerf
> > Google, LLC
> > 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
> > Reston, VA 20190
> > +1 (571) 213 1346
> >
> >
> > until further notice
> >
> >
> >
>

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[Vint Cerf]

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anyone can nominate, anyone can send in supporting letters of
endorsement. Nominations
open in May
<https://www.internetsociety.org/grants-and-awards/postel-service-award/#:~:text=The%20Jonathan%20B.,service%20to%20the%20Internet%20community.>
.

vint



On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 9:21 AM Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Lovely. So how we can put it in motion? :) Who would be the best person to
> do it?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
> *In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025
>
> https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <+421%20919%20416%20714>
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 <+420%20775%20230%20885>
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:17 PM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Definitely :-)
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 15:12, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think?
>> > v
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45 AM Loganaden Velvindron <
>> loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
>> contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some
>> other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid
>> Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When
>> Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet
>> pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)
>> Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History
>> Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know
>> of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or
>> Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we
>> think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official
>> histories.
>> >>
>> >> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
>> >> years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
>> >> IETF.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
>> > Vint Cerf
>> > Google, LLC
>> > 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
>> > Reston, VA 20190
>> > +1 (571) 213 1346 <(571)%20213-1346>
>> >
>> >
>> > until further notice
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>

-- 
Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
Vint Cerf
Google, LLC
1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
Reston, VA 20190
+1 (571) 213 1346


until further notice

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Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Loganaden Velvindron]

ISOC has opened a nomination for the Johnathan Postel award, but the
page is password protected ...

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 18:47, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
>
> anyone can nominate, anyone can send in supporting letters of endorsement. Nominations open in May.
>
> vint
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 9:21 AM Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lovely. So how we can put it in motion? :) Who would be the best person to do it?
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>
>>
>> In loving memory of Dave Täht: 1965-2025
>>
>> https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/
>>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>>
>> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>>
>> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>>
>> Skype: casioa5302ca
>>
>> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:17 PM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely :-)
>>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 15:12, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think?
>>> > v
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45 AM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)  Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official histories.
>>> >>
>>> >> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
>>> >> years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
>>> >> IETF.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
>>> > Vint Cerf
>>> > Google, LLC
>>> > 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
>>> > Reston, VA 20190
>>> > +1 (571) 213 1346
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > until further notice
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>
>
>
> --
> Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
> Vint Cerf
> Google, LLC
> 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
> Reston, VA 20190
> +1 (571) 213 1346
>
>
> until further notice
>
>
>

Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Livingood, Jason]

> ISOC has opened a nomination for the Johnathan Postel award, but the
page is password protected ...

Worked for me w/o a password: https://wp.apps.internetsociety.org/wp/postel-award/nomination-form/

Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Frantisek Borsik]

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Thank you very much, Larry, for writing this:
https://circleid.com/posts/remembering-dave-taht

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik


*In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025

https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/


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On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 4:04 PM Livingood, Jason <
jason_livingood@comcast.com> wrote:

> > ISOC has opened a nomination for the Johnathan Postel award, but the
> page is password protected ...
>
> Worked for me w/o a password:
> https://wp.apps.internetsociety.org/wp/postel-award/nomination-form/
>
>
>

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Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Richard Roy]

The link below is for the nomination.  I assume someone has already filled that out.  How does one write/add/append the "letter(s) of support" ISOC requests is I think the issue, right?

RR (aka Dick Roy)

-----Original Message-----
From: Nnagain <nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason via Nnagain
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2025 7:05 AM
To: Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
Cc: Livingood, Jason <jason_livingood@comcast.com>; cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net; Herbert Wolverson <hwolverson@libreqos.io>; Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>; libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>; dpreed@deepplum.com; cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net; Jeremy Austin via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>; codel@lists.bufferbloat.net; Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time! <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>; codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net; cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>; Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net; Frantisek (Frank) Borsik <frank@libreqos.io>; Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; Robert Chacón <robert@libreqos.io>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

> ISOC has opened a nomination for the Johnathan Postel award, but the
page is password protected ...

Worked for me w/o a password: https://wp.apps.internetsociety.org/wp/postel-award/nomination-form/


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Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Frantisek Borsik]

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Not that I'm aware of - I got draft ready with one amazing friend that
probably wouldn't want to be named (and if yes, he will raise his hand) and
one of the Fathers of the Internet agreed to be a nominal nominator.

I plan to send it out to everybody here, to ask people to co-sign it, once
it's ready.

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik


*In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025

https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/


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On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 2:58 PM Richard Roy via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> The link below is for the nomination.  I assume someone has already filled
> that out.  How does one write/add/append the "letter(s) of support" ISOC
> requests is I think the issue, right?
>
> RR (aka Dick Roy)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nnagain <nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of
> Livingood, Jason via Nnagain
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2025 7:05 AM
> To: Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
> Cc: Livingood, Jason <jason_livingood@comcast.com>;
> cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net; Herbert Wolverson <
> hwolverson@libreqos.io>; Make-Wifi-fast <
> make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>; libreqos <
> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>; dpreed@deepplum.com;
> cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net; Jeremy Austin via Rpm <
> rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>; codel@lists.bufferbloat.net; Network
> Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time! <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>; codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net;
> cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>;
> Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net;
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik <frank@libreqos.io>; Dave Taht via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; Robert Chacón <robert@libreqos.io>
> Subject: Re: [NNagain] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] [Bloat] In
> loving memory of Dave Täht <3
>
> > ISOC has opened a nomination for the Johnathan Postel award, but the
> page is password protected ...
>
> Worked for me w/o a password:
> https://wp.apps.internetsociety.org/wp/postel-award/nomination-form/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nnagain mailing list
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Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Frantisek Borsik]

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We have joined Jonathan at FLOSS Weekly Podcast yesterday to talk about
Dave's life, work and more:

https://hackaday.com/2025/04/16/floss-weekly-episode-829-this-machine-kills-vogons/

Enjoy!

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik


*In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025

https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/


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On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:17 PM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Definitely :-)
>
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 15:12, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think?
> > v
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45 AM Loganaden Velvindron <
> loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
> contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some
> other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid
> Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When
> Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet
> pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)
> Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History
> Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know
> of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or
> Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we
> think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official
> histories.
> >>
> >> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
> >> years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
> >> IETF.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
> > Vint Cerf
> > Google, LLC
> > 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
> > Reston, VA 20190
> > +1 (571) 213 1346
> >
> >
> > until further notice
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Robert McMahon]

> He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later years.

It reminds me of Thomas Gray and his Elegy and Epitaph. I think there
are many Dave's amongst us. His passing so suddenly reminds me of
gratitude that we each have more time together - until we don't,
always leaving too early. It's an honor to be part of such a group.
Thanks Dave, for this group.

THE EPITAPH
Here rests his head upon the lap of Earth
       A youth to Fortune and to Fame unknown.
Fair Science frown'd not on his humble birth,
       And Melancholy mark'd him for her own.

Large was his bounty, and his soul sincere,
       Heav'n did a recompense as largely send:
He gave to Mis'ry all he had, a tear,
       He gain'd from Heav'n ('twas all he wish'd) a friend.

No farther seek his merits to disclose,
       Or draw his frailties from their dread abode,
(There they alike in trembling hope repose)
       The bosom of his Father and his God.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44299/elegy-written-in-a-country-churchyard

Bob

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Frantisek Borsik]

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Well, I hope we should have Dave's nomination for Jonathan B. Postel
Service Award
<https://www.internetsociety.org/grants-and-awards/postel-service-award/#timeline>ready,
soon.

For starters, at least.

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik


*In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025

https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/


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On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 12:50 PM Michiel Leenaars via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> >2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his
> contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some
> other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid
> Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When
> Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet
> pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)
> Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History
> Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know
> of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or
> Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we
> think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official
> histories.
>
> We just missed the deadline for the Internet Hall of Fame by a few days:
>
>
> https://www.internethalloffame.org/2025/01/20/the-internet-hall-of-fame-2025-nominations-are-now-open/
>
> (which features Richard Stallman and Aaron Schwartz already, to be fair)
>
> But perhaps someone has nominated him already.
>
> Best,
> Michiel
> _______________________________________________
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> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>

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Re: [Bloat] [Cake] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Siim Ošur]

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Hello,

I have great respect for this man, even though I never met him.
His project helped me spur on the configuration of my own tc-cake 
interfaces on my linux boxes and have since enabled an awesome 
experience in enjoying the online world.

Farewell Dave.

On 4/1/25 8:27 PM, Frantisek Borsik via Cake wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away. <https:// 
> libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, 
> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always 
> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions 
> out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to 
> family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, 
> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of 
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable 
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and 
> community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who 
> lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable 
> access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through 
> FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are 
> millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently 
> enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the 
> world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of 
> humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – 
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing 
> world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start 
> their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave 
> started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to 
> expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had 
> come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as 
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do 
> better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that 
> happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in 
> production!
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank____
> 
> ____
> 
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik____
> 
> __ __
> 
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> in/frantisekborsik>____
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com <mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Sauli Kiviranta]

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Very sorry to hear that, what a loss! Condolences :(

We lost a great engineer and internet enthusiast (activist?) who was always
a positive driving force to make sh!t happen, yet with strongly held values
as north star, a true open-source believer! After few years lurking in the
shadows of IETF, in early 2023 I was preparing for first at site
participation and asked Dave for advice. Advice he did, a true mentor! This
eventually led to various late hour discussions, mostly just me picking his
brain for advice to help on the adventures on trying to make Internet
faster. He was happy to breach about bufferbloat and share insights into
why things still suck even if we have a lot of the answers already, about
fairness in internet protocols, or just him reflecting on fq and aqm to
preserve our collective discipline on the internet, fairness not just as a
feature, for him it was a moral imperative.

What made Dave special was all those philosophical reflections and small
insertions of his (often strong held) values into the technical
discussions, even in the smalles of technical contexts. Dave often shared
his dislike and was vocal on the problems in our way of working as
engineers, and I do share that concern. He would often tell the story on
how Richard Feynman exposing the flaws behind the Challenger disaster
“broke” him not only emotionally but also professionally, leading him to
change in direction as engineer. Much alike that of Feynman what Dave had
was a spirit and demand for truthfulness and the rejection of bureaucratic
spin in the face of technical reality. He was frustrated on how we often
end up dismissing the stakes of engineering that ignoring physical laws not
just be bringing jail time but “death and destruction”, yet we are often
casual about consequences of our lack of discipline in the internet
(technically, right?).

Dave always had a good sense of humor and a grounded, human touch, plus to
put the music on top of that. That combo made an entertaining speaker and
funny demos he was throwing around to make a point. When I would ask his
advice to help us on a project, he would be soon joking about needing to go
for a walk because his “brain hurts" after spending the day on the problems
of slinging packets across the solar system. He was a strong space
advocate, albeit with a dark touch to it due to the Feynman influence. All
this considered I am very happy to hear that he got to make contributions
to Starlink! He was often talking about it and hoping to be able to help.
His wit, humility, and generosity with time and advice was always there,
never pretentious, always direct, and often self-deprecating with humor.
Very characteristic example piece of Dave space enthusiasm was his worries
and writings about asteroid mining (He did write a lot of good stuff!):

https://the-edge.blogspot.com/search/label/asteroids

Dave was as a rare blend of an engineer, philosopher, educator, and
activist. His character was one of intellectual honesty, generosity, and a
deep values but always ending up with practical engineering and soemthing
that is reliable to the point of preserving human life directly or
indirectly. Dave was also one with true passion for open-source, unwavering
passion (Hi LibreQoS team!). He always punctuated on and advocated for
collaboration, offering to share code and share access to everything he
did, test things around, and openly critique what he saw as flawed
assumptions. His attitude was not one of competition but protective of what
he considered sacred, the integrity of internet. He was one who wanted to
believe, in the powers of good, to live, and live he did!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKMSgZo9c8s

We lost a great one! We will do our best and try to uphold what Dave was
fighting for, even if times get grim on occasion, losing him certainly is
one of those grim time. Log off now, Dave, may the waves be soothing on the
sail to the other side, rest in peace as you well deserve!

- Sauli

--

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On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 8:26 PM Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.
> <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
>
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE,
> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always
> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions
> out there) wouldn’t exist.
>
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family
> and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
>
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel,
> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community.
> One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a
> far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her
> doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only
> made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like
> hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and
> safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and
> open source, for the betterment of humanity.
>
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues –
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world,
> such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own
> ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on
> FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet
> access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle
> and helped so many.
>
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better
> for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen.
> He will be dearly missed.
>
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in
> production!
>
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Nils Andreas Svee]

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Very sorry to learn of Dave's passing, it's a sad time for us all.

I wasn't lucky enough to know Dave very well, so it's been a privilege to read everyone's stories about him, and I hope others who have some will share as well what he meant to them.

I wish those in contact with his family will let them know just how many lives he's touched over the years, and how much we will all miss him.

Rest in peace Dave.

Kind Regards
Nils

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025, at 00:27, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away. <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684*
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank____
> ____
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Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Larry Press]

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I met Dave only recently, and never in person, but his passing saddens me. He taught me about buffer bloat, etc., but I am sad because he was a good person — unselfish, caring, open, and funny. I'll miss him.

Larry
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Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

Very sorry to learn of Dave's passing, it's a sad time for us all.

I wasn't lucky enough to know Dave very well, so it's been a privilege to read everyone's stories about him, and I hope others who have some will share as well what he meant to them.

I wish those in contact with his family will let them know just how many lives he's touched over the years, and how much we will all miss him.

Rest in peace Dave.

Kind Regards
Nils

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025, at 00:27, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
Hello to all,

We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/__;!!P7nkOOY!tjOQAVTyhn-AeKG39jwTPtuisnB161uun2FpoZCNfMIsFi7qOeWTxiZWUfZGUIpncsQQNROcLEsw18snxWK9qbHp3g$>

Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.

Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.

Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.

Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.

We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.

PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684__;!!P7nkOOY!tjOQAVTyhn-AeKG39jwTPtuisnB161uun2FpoZCNfMIsFi7qOeWTxiZWUfZGUIpncsQQNROcLEsw18snxWK6ZaPfMQ$>

All the best,


Frank


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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Jonathan Corbet]

Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> writes:

> Hello to all,
>
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away.

I've been pondering this for the last day, at a loss for what I could
say other than "I'm sad too".  I have many happy memories of discussions
with Dave, with beers shared in distant places, of his continual gentle
encouragement to support the people who are working to make things
better.

We have lost somebody special.

Looking through my email from him, one constant theme was not pointing
out his own work (though he was certainly pleased when it was adopted),
but the work of others.  He wanted all of the people doing good work to
be recognized, and had a big enough heart to support them all.

In a message sent just over a year ago, he left me with this thought:

	"if we do not celebrate ourselves, no-one will."

As I remember Dave, I shall try to follow his lead and celebrate those
who are continuing his work.

jon

Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Bless, Roland (TM)]

This is very sad news.
I've met Dave a few times at IETF meetings
and he was always inspiring – quite often he preferred
to play guitar outside instead of spending too much time
in those meeting rooms without daylight.
He was really passionate about making the Internet better!
Condolences, he will be missed!

Roland

On 01.04.25 at 19:27 Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away. <https:// 
> libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, 
> fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always 
> willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions 
> out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to 
> family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, 
> and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of 
> people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable 
> video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and 
> community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who 
> lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable 
> access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through 
> FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are 
> millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently 
> enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the 
> world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of 
> humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – 
> enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing 
> world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start 
> their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave 
> started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to 
> expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had 
> come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as 
> someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do 
> better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that 
> happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> *PS: *Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in 
> production!
> *https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
> <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>*
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank____
> 
> ____
> 
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[jf]

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This is such sad news; I will deeply miss Dave and all his outstanding contributions.

I first met Dave around 2016 as I was beginning to mature the concepts in the IQrouter. Dave was a great sounding board for ideas and a great mentor who constantly encouraged us.
I returned the favor by supporting his work and giving what feedback I could over the years, sharing data gathered via our deployments to help him and others refine the designs of the lower-level QoS components.

His efforts to educate the rest of us and key players in our field will be remembered for the fruits they had and continue to have.

I’ll resurrect the Apple title ‘Evangelist’ and apply it to Dave, one of our tireless Evangelists who worked to improve the internet for all.

R.I.P Dave, I miss you.

Jonathan Foulkes


> On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:27 PM, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello to all,
> 
> We’re devastated to announce that Dave Täht has passed away. <https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/>
> 
> Dave was an amazing man, helping the world with FQ-CoDel and CAKE, fighting bufferbloat and trying to make the world a better place. Always willing to help, and without him – LibreQoS (and the other QoE solutions out there) wouldn’t exist.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration, and we all miss him. We’re reaching out to family and close friends to see if there’s anything we can do to help.
> 
> Dave was an inspiration to us. Dave’s contributions to Linux, FQ-CoDel, and CAKE improved internet connectivity around the world for millions of people. Because of him, millions of people now have access to reliable video calls – and in turn, access to loved ones, healthcare, and community. One of Robert’s ISP customers is a kind paraplegic woman who lives in a far-flung rural Colonia around El Paso, Texas. Her reliable access to her doctors through telemedicine, and to her family through FaceTime, was only made possible because of his algorithms. There are millions of cases like hers, where Dave’s contributions have silently enabled human connection and safety. Everything Dave contributed to the world of technology was free and open source, for the betterment of humanity.
> 
> Dave is the reason that Starlink was able to tackle its latency issues – enabling a generation of young entrepreneurs across the developing world, such as these young folks pictured in the Phillipines, to start their own ISPs to expand internet access to their communities. Dave started work on FQ-CoDel in part because of his own journey working to expand internet access in Nicaragua, so we know he saw that his work had come full-circle and helped so many.
> 
> We’re incredibly grateful to have Dave as our friend, mentor, and as someone who continuously inspired us – showing us that we could do better for each other in the world, and leverage technology to make that happen. He will be dearly missed.
> 
> PS: Dave is forever in our hearts and souls, in our routers and...in production!
> https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684
>  <https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/pull/684>
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

[Juliusz Chroboczek]

It was many years ago.

Dave was in Paris, but I was busy.  I told him I didn't have time to take
him to a fancy restaurant, but we could have lunch at an ordinary
brasserie.  We met at noon, got a table.  Dave was observing the habitués
drinking their white wine at the counter, the office workers having steak
and salad, the young people not quite sure whether it's a date.

There was no Enligh-language menu, of course, but the owner, a lady way
above retirement age, who spoke French with a strong Parisian accent,
turned out to speak remarkably good English.  I had steak, Dave had fish,
if I recall correctly.  The white wine was decent, the red was okay.

I'm sure we discussed bufferbloat, Dave encouraged me not to give up on
Babel, I must have told him about my students, we probably slandered the
IETF.  I likely didn't have dessert, I don't remember whether Dave did.

I went to the counter, ordered two coffees.  Un express et un américano,
s'il-vous-plaît.  The lady stared at me blankly.  Un américano, right?
Young man, she said, you're not going to tell me how to make un américano,
but your friend, he has to learn to drink proper coffee.  It's going to be
deux express.

Dave was very brave that day.

-- Juliusz