From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B491E201044 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so1201603wib.10 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Vbd6yCpkhyuJTucoTng5FcsvkRW9jAgWSQ+rrDH7BzA=; b=KoaWtA+OCd8H2HWljtz+tc+g4Gm1utYjR+fP0xShdnZfvkAscNzHnQ7qr5VPwJZ1vV zZSa4fTtKkJvSOABsHHYvq0HTcRVjrspKLV7E3no81h2fl6cyOjEMTZo02P54xP1eml/ 7Rgu0qaJ6bkaf68Kwc3boskVYsGfnb1NnqeM8te9HhrY+2QTjQbfHnkGmAayZjZQ7WPe qkPfh/V8p6Lih6gPu4KRwSw57WztxyP38Y7LSa2an+I5qOCKKJuz5AlP9M6WxYHMb+mn jz5BNakAPfxol27f0rkb92uSq/LKZ5ULyWZ6VtuhlgiqlseFPnlYMNQ4W51AiHrT8ljX KefQ== Received: by 10.180.20.175 with SMTP id o15mr4714303wie.6.1333823254821; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (xdsl-83-150-84-172.nebulazone.fi. [83.150.84.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5sm16478855wia.11.2012.04.07.11.27.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <20120407181034.GD21452@uio.no> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:27:32 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <25AFF8A5-B8C8-4DD3-984D-0D08326395B8@gmail.com> References: <20120406213725.GA12641@uio.no> <20120406222138.GB12641@uio.no> <1333811327.30705.4.camel@edumazet-laptop> <20120407153548.GC21452@uio.no> <20120407181034.GD21452@uio.no> To: "Steinar H. Gunderson" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] Best practices for paced TCP on Linux? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:27:37 -0000 On 7 Apr, 2012, at 9:10 pm, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > Have you tried the one at cesur.tg12? It's pacing things out a bit = more. After reducing my TCP *receive* window to 64KB, the 720p50 stream at the = main site is playing just fine - or at least it was, until the = presenters just came on for the "Grand Finale". That was a very abrupt = and well-synchronised change in performance, so there has to be = something different there. I appreciate, however, that a 64KB window requires a maximum of 100ms = round-trip latency at 5Mbps, so that's not a solution for New Zealond. - Jonathan=