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charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A little politicking: change the name to make the metric actually mean what= it says. Turn "Typical packet loss" into "Typical retransmissions". "Packet loss" is misleading except to a TCP/IP expert. We recommend reporting reporting what losses cause, retransmissions. Retran= smissions are meaningful to the consumer, because it tells them what percen= tage of the packets are significantly delayed. Like high latency, retransmi= ssions cause delays, garbling, drop-outs and "buffering" messages in both a= udio and video. If we have someone there for the Q&A or if someone knows one of the panelis= ts, super. In any case, get it to them in writing as a bug report, not a re= quest for improvement. --dave And the fix is only a few extra characters, and fits in the space on the la= bel On 3/30/22 11:21, Dave Taht wrote: Anyone got a presence at this? I'd really like to kill "typical" packet loss as a metric dead... https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-second-public-hearing-broadband-= consumer-labels -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. 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A little politicking: change the name to make the metric actually mean w= hat it says.

Turn "Typical packet loss" into "Typical retransmissions&= quot;.

"Packet loss" is misleading except to a TCP/IP expert.

We recommend reporting reporting what losses cause, retransmission= s. Retransmissions are meaningful to the consumer, because it tells= them what percentage of the packets are significantly delayed. Like high l= atency, retransmissions cause delays, garbling, drop-outs and "buffering" messages in both audio and v= ideo.

If we have someone there for the Q&A or if someone knows one of the = panelists, super. In any case, get it to them in writing as a bug report, n= ot a request for improvement.

--dave

And the fix is only a few extra characters, and fits in the space on the= label


On 3/30/22 11:21, Dave Taht wrote:
Anyone got a presence at this? I'd r=
eally like to kill "typical"
packet loss as a metric dead...

https://www.fcc=
.gov/document/fcc-announces-second-public-hearing-broadband-consumer-labels=



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