From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A53C93B2A4 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 09:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDAF1800D; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 09:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mSgSkNidIuBp; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 09:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6173F1800C; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 09:05:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1704809135; bh=BK2nN2iLcx6sWLlI7J2ciBApYJejb/7buuspq8INX2w=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=poGGtkChZFvyW2nEE+1FJxIvmLwrkXUnIuogWbl8tSjurSQd5ZeHpLiPSvLkZ8lAp A3GTZMa0s/gqmUgJaRCzGgL+wL02278Oaa+LL/m0dnSNlXvAiyXmyeiO+T4uSF/5I5 iV1MoXdU/oh5H8bxa5sZOMCxRlh1FZi7yNTAFicMtGas9r7EcjWTGhcHJ2nbgX9bWD /A/nw0tpcnzqrwe9Neotvnra1NSKQxncnXvHCHTHRNPAe/ELe4waKJJbjBgUyBHSYe W6J+zwBqXVd5vG1tGZ6A6h2fU+/iHtJ3RUWyk7gsB0O6UJdEHU+F2WAOjJ91E0D2RP Y4pT97H10ygYg== Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBD614F; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 09:05:35 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: David Schinazi , Sebastian Moeller , Bloat In-Reply-To: References: <871qareduw.wl-jch@irif.fr> <4065073E-D259-4403-B8AC-71059FC536DE@gmx.de> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 28.2 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 14:05:37 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain David Schinazi via Bloat wrote: > My understanding is that Apple chose to report RTT as an inverse because > people are used to "higher number means better". The target audience > for Yes. Stuart was pretty clear about this being the reason for the decision. It seemed sound then and I still think it's sound. > network speed tests is the average slightly-tech-savvy consumer, and those > aren't all familiar with what latency means. Also, car enthusiasts like Marketing people like bigger numbers. That's where we want things to go: into advertisements. (I keep asking for 128-bit internet, because it's better than 32-bit 1980s crap, but then they answer: "Oh, yes! we have 125Mbs LTE") --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFFBAEBCgAvFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmWdUq8RHG1jckBzYW5k ZWxtYW4uY2EACgkQgItw+93Q3WW2nwf/RejRLPJy3T5ulfHnmVMwug7IuZODEuHF ANzBtaMww0lSUsj13AeFQdew6oYWP3q3vCMTlg2ODop3fvNWh2MgtXQCv1HfOfuJ P0K1WU9hRXVkR8Hl1HfMHsdg40rxDKVo7zybRVEmZyuW/iV19hXUlAFtLqI6Kj94 ETy1Jo8kPTu0HOqQoS8rOH4Yi/0zxdJsSmbb6R94u5ZBzv/cKX/rdet3RoigTnNH iJzbIrZUvh7MaXMpbX0A6odZDGLV+oTa1vZXfh3UnwgswVL7QjTaJX26KqHdJs9k I5Bi1jSSLmMpYgntdrjUNHDAcGOFI7usuxLzg9nkKxfQaicsNGom+Q== =Tuek -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--