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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] "Very interesting L4S presentation from Nokia Bell Labs on tap for RIPE 88 in Krakow this week! "
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 19:18:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28C0EFA5-8681-41DB-AF49-E551D1AA2A0A@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJUtOOhzp3p6DEdSTuHrczk7AM5uFcDUgE6mc+A_BM5G+O5JHw@mail.gmail.com>

> On 21 May, 2024, at 6:31 pm, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Just "fresh from the oven", shared by Jason on social media:
> 
> https://ripe88.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/67-20240521_RIPE88_L4S_introduction_Werner_Coomans_upload.pdf

The usual set of half-truths, with a fresh coat of paint.  Notice in particular that the only *performance* comparisons they make are between L4S and no AQM at all, not between L4S and conventional AQM - even though they now mention that the latter *exists*.  There's also no mention whatsoever of what happens when L4S traffic meets a conventional AQM.

 - Jonathan Morton



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-21 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-21 15:31 Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-21 16:18 ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2024-05-21 17:13   ` Livingood, Jason
2024-05-21 17:32     ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-22  5:40       ` [Bloat] Fwd: " Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-22  8:47         ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-22 12:48         ` Livingood, Jason
2024-05-22 13:10           ` [Bloat] " Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-22  9:37       ` Jonathan Morton
2024-05-22 12:30         ` [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] " Livingood, Jason
2024-05-22 12:27       ` Livingood, Jason
2024-05-22 12:54         ` [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] " Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-22 17:37           ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-23  0:06 [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2024-05-23  6:16 ` Sebastian Moeller

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