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From: Kathleen Nichols <nichols@pollere.net>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Trouble Installing PPing in MacOS
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:16:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <293de1cf-ae10-5e77-81ba-59599cc6ef86@pollere.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGL1wDSYjamfSHhQBonHii54r8Rn9R13AJN9tCMm3ye5ZCRk8A@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/26/21 4:56 AM, Jason Iannone wrote:
...
> passively monitor production flows to get a novel sense of end to end
> performance per flow. I don't know of any other passive monitoring
> technique, beyond a port mirror + a whole gang of systems, that can
> provide this level of detail. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong. The only
> other passive monitoring mechanisms I'm aware of are SNMP polling,
> IPFIX/*Flow, and Streaming Telemetry Interface. None of those systems
> provide end to end flow performance details. The standard in-band active
> monitoring tools are good for determining node to node and full path
> metrics, but this provides a more complete picture of end to end
> performance beyond active y.1731/802.3ag/OAM probes. I'm a little
> surprised that I'm only learning about it now.
> 

So, I worked on something I call TSDE (Transport Segment Delay
Estimator) that lets you get a (noisy) one-way estimate of delay
variation. I did pping as sort of a side product and as a way to find
the minimum round trip delay since TSDE just gives variation. This was
done under a DOE SBIR and Pollere has a patent on it but I would
consider sharing information if someone wanted to develop an open source
tool. (I feel that my own implementation is kind of fragile as I was
using it to try different ideas for getting a good estimate. And I
haven't done anything with it for several years.)

	Kathie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-26 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-25 15:58 Jason Iannone
2021-02-25 16:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-25 18:02   ` Jason Iannone
2021-02-26 12:56     ` Jason Iannone
2021-02-26 21:06       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-27  0:36         ` Jason Iannone
2021-02-27  2:22           ` [Bloat] offtopic to: " David Collier-Brown
2021-02-27 16:00           ` [Bloat] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-27 16:31             ` Jason Iannone
2021-02-27 16:49               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-26 22:16       ` Kathleen Nichols [this message]
2021-02-27  1:36         ` Jason Iannone

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