* [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3%
@ 2024-07-12 10:31 Frantisek Borsik
2024-07-12 10:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
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From: Frantisek Borsik @ 2024-07-12 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
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Blog post: https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2024/07/cdn-market-size.html
Podcast:
https://www.danrayburnpodcast.com/1893312/15332762-special-cdn-podcast-the-latest-data-on-pricing-market-size-tech-trends-diy-revenue-and-performance
*There was a term "Low Latency" discussed and I'm kind of confused: *
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* Re: [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3%
2024-07-12 10:31 [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3% Frantisek Borsik
@ 2024-07-12 10:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-07-12 13:21 ` Livingood, Jason
2024-07-12 23:41 ` Michael Richardson
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From: Sebastian Moeller @ 2024-07-12 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frantisek Borsik; +Cc: bloat
Hi Frank,
> On 12. Jul 2024, at 12:31, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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> Blog post: https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2024/07/cdn-market-size.html
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> Podcast: https://www.danrayburnpodcast.com/1893312/15332762-special-cdn-podcast-the-latest-data-on-pricing-market-size-tech-trends-diy-revenue-and-performance
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> There was a term "Low Latency" discussed and I'm kind of confused:
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> All the best,
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> FrankFrantisek (Frank) Borsik
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
I guess the issue is that bad latency typically is causing a quantitative degradation, not a big qualitative step that is immediately noticeable. People can learn/train themselves to operate in high latency/high intertia environments (steering a big loaded container ship). Sure that might not be pleasant, but I bet quite a lot of people affected by this can not put their finger on it and explicitly state what is wrong... a content provider muight take the wrong message from that inability of end users to localize the root cause?
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* Re: [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3%
2024-07-12 10:31 [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3% Frantisek Borsik
2024-07-12 10:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
@ 2024-07-12 13:21 ` Livingood, Jason
2024-07-12 23:41 ` Michael Richardson
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From: Livingood, Jason @ 2024-07-12 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frantisek Borsik, bloat
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> There was a term "Low Latency" discussed and I'm kind of confused:
I’d first observe that if the CDN market is growing 3%, it means the market has stopped growing (given 3% is roughly the rate of inflation). That seems like a big story, and maybe an indicator that the internet is at a pivot from stored file delivery (CDNs, video streaming) to more real-time traffic and compute.
In terms of below, I think this is CDN folks trying to understand why low latency is important to SVOD – which is not really the right question for them.
JL
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* Re: [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3%
2024-07-12 10:31 [Bloat] Global CDN Services Market About $5B in 2023, Expected To Grow 3% Frantisek Borsik
2024-07-12 10:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-07-12 13:21 ` Livingood, Jason
@ 2024-07-12 23:41 ` Michael Richardson
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From: Michael Richardson @ 2024-07-12 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
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Lower latency for video demand means that I can stop/rewind/scroll with less
annoyance. We saw this in the demos that showed up at IETF hackathons a few
years ago.
Customers are *not* demanding that, because:
a) they don't know it's about latency.
b) the end users experience the pain, not the netflix/disney+/etc. people
c) it's hard for CDN people to actually do anything about last-mile bloat.
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