From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22d.google.com (mail-lj1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FEC83BA8E; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id x9so5593829ljc.7; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 21:04:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ntRy4S25vxIWlqZ3ySMn87bevAOmbLvSdExrAtAjSao=; b=JydnbtR7Bmo1rK8HTTucFgqOHPAAvs3KuHM81xJfDiFr25Xge8kOjIMXt0diVvP4r4 rMWm3RbQB/kB/udR/TRPXKIaK06aoW/BpmFNNMtk/TCm43hlNOZALl2X7vGBsPS23av5 vMy1vwIi3EhLpSdUgwf4oUXf7TTrLhdeyxGiUBfFQdiYqk7clVVymANCoN9SuT+hCiNE a9b4LDsfDTUXFBoP9Y/a+fRi6BiCUzq8ApWx22FtWsjj0esCwRkLJdIZP8b7ms/J4ttk 5+I9LKCO5ZyAwqpayVx/eXHMcB2nxlxqiYDKtifJvlzPBzeIl6liZaw7NwoPxQpHS2r8 W2Tg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ntRy4S25vxIWlqZ3ySMn87bevAOmbLvSdExrAtAjSao=; b=O3UTzyB4QmBoyDn+S6KMoPskt+hjkrbFQUKlULGTABhUYPgL1H5mbHOSs2Pu5e+Iym Mcj297+WiysKVldKScTYW5KtenYTQHFpxtTLFIhjO6VhEKBervGQAga2qbrfvxuTytL1 NNIppv7+fRN/4z462QMCtXnnT1frFkAV/wXYj8ZnaUtYwe2cVhmGLVMAQmYBI1pCGfr+ XOUKqGXyZH38cdASfME0xwppgb7/4Oc+L5JJrTYhQw2K+iMYPMn5uwlhvpwvAw/IWj56 e+Paoyrp2yi8NILrANTiwk1N01MqSKo97icxUgYSOtvAr+U9ZM8XwzSW9zC/1PAdJ5w9 cOPA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUBb0W0WxsHCHGGmRgJ2GHjfBcICd0LHBszxPbxYyOMWt/yqBVg 88ddNbRzkF77ZGoIUkwRFnI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqydcMYc76uyKfHSmlazmOY5/RSGrjxjnkLe0rnliSHZQztDTSZtOtmj6T1uj5WvjXxUMGMyNg== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9143:: with SMTP id q3mr4049168ljg.72.1552709093994; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 21:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-227-44-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.227.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n65sm769743lfn.10.2019.03.15.21.04.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Mar 2019 21:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <1552669283.555112988@apps.rackspace.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 06:04:51 +0200 Cc: Sebastian Moeller , ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E377D10-3CF0-4F08-9936-AA812E3F1277@gmail.com> References: <1E80578D-A589-4CA0-9015-B03B63042355@gmx.de> <27FA673A-2C4C-4652-943F-33FAA1CF1E83@gmx.de> <1552669283.555112988@apps.rackspace.com> To: "David P. Reed" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] [iccrg] Fwd: [tcpPrague] Implementation and experimentation of TCP Prague/L4S hackaton at IETF104 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 04:04:55 -0000 > On 15 Mar, 2019, at 7:01 pm, David P. Reed = wrote: >=20 > > Next up for sce was going to be to find if dctcp could be modified = to > > use it. Also, bittorrent. >=20 > YES! I endorse this message. Actually, today I was still figuring out how to fit it to CUBIC. I = *think* I've succeeded=E2=80=A6 = https://github.com/dtaht/bufferbloat-rfcs/blob/master/sce/ELR%20Proposal%2= 03%20(TCP).txt I recall DCTCP as being singularly built around a distinct setpoint from = what either Classic ECN or SCE expects. So I think I might look at = LEDBAT first. - Jonathan Morton