From: Noah Causin <n0manletter@gmail.com>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] fixing bufferbloat in 2017
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:50:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e7e4dbe-5a95-93f3-89de-447f6bf970f9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1611231829220.3558@uplift.swm.pp.se>
There is a company called Netduma which sells a product called the
Netduma R1 Router. It's main feature is reducing lag. It does this
through QOS and GEO-IP Filtering. (Limiting available servers to your
local region = reduced RTT)
It seems relatively popular in the gaming world, especially console.
It is based on OpenWRT Chaos Calmer: https://netduma.com/opensource/
It has an advanced QOS system that already uses FQ_Codel.
Here are the hardware specs:
https://netduma.com/features/hardware/
I assume it has an ath9k.
Maybe they could implement the ath9k fq_codel and airtime patches.
The user base that buys this product seems like they would be more
familiar with setting up routers than the average person.
On 11/23/2016 12:31 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Benjamin Cronce wrote:
>
>> If there is a simple affordable solution, say Open/DD-WRT distro
>> based bridge that all you do is configure your up/down bandwidth and
>> it applies Codel/fq-Codel/Cake, then all you need to do is drive up
>> awareness. A good channel for awareness would be getting in contact
>> with popular Twitch or YouTube gaming streamers. But I wouldn't put
>> much effort into driving up awareness until there is a device that
>> people can easily acquire, use, and afford. At first I was thinking
>> of telling people to use *-WRT supporting routers, but changing the
>> firmware on your router requires too much research, and many people
>> care about bleeding edge features. You need something that works in
>> tangent with whatever they are using.
>
> If Comcast sells you 100/20 (I have no idea if this is a thing), you
> set your upstream on this box to 18 meg fq_codel, and then Comcast
> oversubscribes you so you only get 15 meg up part of the time, then
> you're still bloated by the modem. This is not a solution.
>
> I don't think "buy $thing, install *WRT on it, configure it like this"
> is above most gamers, but I'm afraid we don't even have a working
> solution for someone with that kind of skillset.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-23 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-22 15:32 Dave Taht
2016-11-22 16:19 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-22 16:25 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-22 16:38 ` Jim Gettys
2016-11-23 8:28 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 11:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-23 11:59 ` Kelvin Edmison
2016-11-23 13:31 ` Pedro Tumusok
2016-11-23 14:05 ` Mário Sérgio Fujikawa Ferreira
2016-11-23 17:20 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 17:27 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 17:31 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 17:40 ` Sebastian Moeller
2016-11-23 17:50 ` Noah Causin [this message]
2016-11-23 17:56 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:05 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 18:38 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 19:29 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 19:42 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 20:20 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 17:54 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 18:18 ` Sebastian Moeller
2016-11-23 18:24 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 20:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-11-23 19:13 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:17 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 15:32 ` Pedretti Fabio
2016-11-23 19:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-11-23 19:22 ` Dave Taht
[not found] <mailman.447.1479909940.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-11-23 18:16 ` Rich Brown
2016-11-23 18:46 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:58 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-23 19:15 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 20:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
[not found] <mailman.454.1479929363.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-11-26 15:33 ` [Bloat] Fixing " Rich Brown
2016-11-27 1:53 ` Aaron Wood
2016-11-27 6:10 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-27 21:24 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 2:11 ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-28 2:16 ` Jim Gettys
2016-11-28 6:00 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-28 12:48 ` David Collier-Brown
2016-11-28 15:12 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 15:23 ` Wesley Eddy
2016-11-28 15:35 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 16:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-11-28 17:07 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 19:02 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-28 17:52 ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-28 15:14 ` Pedro Tumusok
2016-11-28 15:23 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 15:10 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 2:47 ` David Lang
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