From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36A913B29E for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845F8389CA; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bD3-Uz-ePaWZ; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271DB389C9; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177E852; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:25:56 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Sina Khanifar cc: bloat In-Reply-To: References: <5CB9F40C-5FFB-4ABC-A184-A3C3A29D2413@gmx.de> <7635C4DC-33F0-44C5-A909-6B81A463FE3F@gmx.de> <8b25a2b4-e158-3291-4f1d-b27ddf7b55d5@lakelandappliedsciences.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Bloat] Updated Bufferbloat Test X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 17:25:57 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Sina Khanifar wrote: > I think that given this limitation of browser-based tests, maybe the > users you have in mind are not our target audience. Our goal is to make > an easy-to-use bufferbloat test "for the rest of us." For > technically-minded gamers, running flent will likely give much better > results. I'd love for it to be otherwise, so we may try to tinker with > things to see if we can get CPU usage down and simultaneously deal with > the UDP question below. I think that your goals are good. In many cases around here, the higher speed connections are also more bloated, and the challenge is convincing a home owner that they will get better interactive performance on a VDSL2 than a FTTH, if they upgrade their router. (This is particularly true if their wifi is slower than their downlink, and also bloated) It's about quality over quantity. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmA5LyMACgkQgItw+93Q 3WWwoAf7BbvZNGUH0Qw0GBKMd81EVeq8vV7WPlHuHpczMgLFo4GPnjKNxVJsrjdr jqt/tEJMMhLg55VGUQKRL1cfpulG6kcQgN5l1FiVmtUONKBLMVtljpPfOb6//8M3 Lamyr+qjSY/0M4bxtbEDSsApIl/5DhiLOoEfxXO/0uzJDcWNAIH1rA3zR72N1i1K XiYqKIGi/BO3XjoaxQUE7nesS1XQ+DjeZzV6Pd1DElB5T2LKVpIcEGrofIqoH7Fa fajJFU0hHRc7aI2QsVZnKxU0CgbBPNifIo2n3gUqOztggJ31MaUB5epCcbwep9/0 CC2/S5xM6Y/W+xDrYLwNezUelTOgVA== =gnOW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--