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* [Bloat] vendor status-s for bufferbloat solutions
@ 2018-02-08 20:10 Dave Taht
  2018-02-08 21:53 ` Michael Richardson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2018-02-08 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

It would be nice to have a set of official statements from vendors
regarding their bufferbloat solutions vis a vis the various RFCs
(notably rfc8290) before the ietf blog entry goes out.

My interchange with the tomahawk 3 guy was fruitless. Apple's kind
of exited the router market. Cable manufacturers are obligated to
implement docsis-pie in 3.1. Microsoft has made a big push recently to
modernize their TCPs. A bunch of router makers did embrace fq_codel
(calling it various things like streamboost, adaptive qos, etc), and a
few calling it what it is notably evenroute, and ubnt in their
edgerouter products, sophos, all of lede/openwrt/asuswrt/etc... but
I'm still unaware of any implementations on ONTs, CMTSes, DSLAMs, DSL
firmwares, MOCA...

What I kind of envision is everybody here annoying their favorite
forums for their favorite product and asking what of the outputs of
the ietf aqm working group they planned to implement.

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* Re: [Bloat] vendor status-s for bufferbloat solutions
  2018-02-08 20:10 [Bloat] vendor status-s for bufferbloat solutions Dave Taht
@ 2018-02-08 21:53 ` Michael Richardson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Michael Richardson @ 2018-02-08 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: bloat

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Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
    > It would be nice to have a set of official statements from vendors
    > regarding their bufferbloat solutions vis a vis the various RFCs
    > (notably rfc8290) before the ietf blog entry goes out.

Years ago, I was trying to get ISOC's Deploy360 folks to help with doing
this.

    > My interchange with the tomahawk 3 guy was fruitless. Apple's kind
    > of exited the router market. Cable manufacturers are obligated to
    > implement docsis-pie in 3.1. Microsoft has made a big push recently to
    > modernize their TCPs. A bunch of router makers did embrace fq_codel
    > (calling it various things like streamboost, adaptive qos, etc), and a
    > few calling it what it is notably evenroute, and ubnt in their
    > edgerouter products, sophos, all of lede/openwrt/asuswrt/etc... but
    > I'm still unaware of any implementations on ONTs, CMTSes, DSLAMs, DSL
    > firmwares, MOCA...

    > What I kind of envision is everybody here annoying their favorite
    > forums for their favorite product and asking what of the outputs of
    > the ietf aqm working group they planned to implement.

Yeah...  So I went through IETF types and through sales channels at one
point, and despite knowing that companies in questions were working on
solutions, nobody knew anything.

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