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* [Bloat] NeST: Network Stack Tester
@ 2020-09-25 17:25 Stephen Hemminger
  2020-09-26 21:24 ` Dave Collier-Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2020-09-25 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: bloat

This looks interesting: https://blog.apnic.net/2020/09/18/nest-a-simpleefficient-tool-to-study-congestion-control/

Good - using namespaces for testing is a good idea.
     - testbed is GPLv2

Bad - using iperf as your main test tool encourages buffer bloat

    - Does 5G really need yet another congestion control algorithm?
      Or it this just a way to get the grant money?
      Or worse, the start of proprietary TCP congestion control.

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* Re: [Bloat] NeST: Network Stack Tester
  2020-09-25 17:25 [Bloat] NeST: Network Stack Tester Stephen Hemminger
@ 2020-09-26 21:24 ` Dave Collier-Brown
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Dave Collier-Brown @ 2020-09-26 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat, stephen

Making things easy to test is good, and I generally assume anything said
about 5G is marketing (three drink minimum (;-))

Academics often respond positively to opportunities to make their
metrics better, so we might want to write to them and suggest some valid
follow-on work... to apply for grants for.

Drop me a line if you would like to do so.

--dave

On 2020-09-25 1:25 p.m., Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> This looks interesting: https://blog.apnic.net/2020/09/18/nest-a-simpleefficient-tool-to-study-congestion-control/
>
> Good - using namespaces for testing is a good idea.
>       - testbed is GPLv2
>
> Bad - using iperf as your main test tool encourages buffer bloat
>
>      - Does 5G really need yet another congestion control algorithm?
>        Or it this just a way to get the grant money?
>        Or worse, the start of proprietary TCP congestion control.
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