From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B590A3B29D for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:04:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1742285095; x=1742889895; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=EuRjGMgA6eNm7QfvkABuzKTYIdGj2WWEfx1iTPRcirE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id: References:To:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from: message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=PhuUEFq0XhSpHLIRz+H9Ny7ygOMrjpSAt8pAv2WK1+XjYQucBQTxgaz6GrmNBV3n xNC8CTeTTkG7BTuQQ99AV+qidcKKusd6XsAnAJ2EhMGS4U8B0VxdbyIZmtifu8tnO OlymGOj+4sYMgZfrRGtFkfMTdJZuN9MGO2lohqpPh8xDvJ51KosKPx2lHYNVAhCaL 92VY6dCxdz3iAMUPWmJ0iRR8gcdZlpNjxhYnG8MrIT866cyBQjttPxk+RmoSYrlgE mUijub9vzyHjf3GKznTRJAKUoZHndcCYaK8q+6Wh5nKBAM+RhpKxhcJftzFM1mTY8 bP+Bp6kPWIxKISxHuA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MEUzA-1txAxp2OvS-009B9M; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:04:55 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.400.131.1.6\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <6A8E94B6-1E3C-4F52-87FD-F8279E95E4F6@ifi.uio.no> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:04:45 +0100 Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3322551E-5E10-4B9C-8007-BC8C3865E0B2@gmx.de> References: <174103000203.525445.13919970625670214659@dt-datatracker-5dd67b77bb-4k4zh> <6A8E94B6-1E3C-4F52-87FD-F8279E95E4F6@ifi.uio.no> To: Michael Welzl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.400.131.1.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IixxBCd4lfzmWC7p7xehy5eH+5JRrCwNy2aQWlUY+L75azfunMy +Lmh/JJH7TfeujC1T1x9dIdWZAGJtpFL7NsG6u2ZwiOzIEk1Lz8d6okvNjMHniY97UOk/yo ciY5jWXrzH13FmM4179V4mgCps8fTiaVsfQS7BTYPbtq694e0eplhLWlZAVFjy+HGdldp2I 1KVFtvSkmijgaqB/4WbPw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:cPy3p76Eqyw=;h4OjDNbWheQAG6K+OUULtaCU3o9 FUmwe/cXQ9/HmQp77DwKYN+4YWDlrac1k0q5GD2Plha95C1EYbO+aA3tw3S8YtR2ebqnH+QlV Qu7ksW118wCT7JXBtGjND57CsbS0F/CroiUui61qMs9uzMN0Gaj/nw6EGW+izpdMWSAw6x+Ul euhCJPQv1YnPzX//3c/n4IKKnAO4Wn9y8Y5e1d51rZOAdVFzk2dk++zQrbxojqRKuilNoMNT1 RRNYx4Y4f0TK+pHUoQBzJiWv821viAT5Tju7cOVEOhluqf1B+M+GEiZaOB7Sp98nErhGZ4YZB OgoHA/J2mk0iKRynGBH9/Hm6DXEk2vZZVdpQI5Z1v3/W3g4L9hdJr/7IHli0uo+p9UjX1137T DR8k8fZGzD0tnQiBaKQ5CJffS6qSzae6dCQeIegrW47yoMPBC169iJNr7VHo4xVp/Pmfxyl7+ WO5DKF7lJNlppan4ITexEoO650NL0mS0RbpB59fchxerFQZgjL9ELBk4KWm+F+LJfToXfQ/Cz jxFI6LIVSN/5HEUxIZTuxF3YW1uRR6W5W+Xe4bJeUaN/LY+Zc4vQ6jUUSCDuDszpmWOacmrFO 4XkhvJ7CIp8NZE/o9Sgx1tWHdY8DeqeE97vfS9R3pR5f6nMMHTkTEjKlcVUsMUXPzBsM81MQy sMC/ey2hzkboc7crk8zNqZGHuDO6LZ3AUYRx9Tiz/xcy7+gV9MiHX8O/SiQ500KiBn7xYyMdU br50tMOxNOH1H+PaJMtd/zxX4dU34d+WZmgFIB/HCf5kukEyBSrShtAgrcDrSqF8CHDqmIZmq jychpKVrViuqnqsXl6fiAxnzf43+wW/23xHvedo4Vmu1J0ObL6Alq2CaabqYd/pjxNfyFke8C CmFzH8biUl47lRAQkHQy2ibI0KEPPFJMNYZwAC6WxjqWQ16tutPQ/sw941PjpyL9/G/Jl+Ybf pFRSDuncuF8xaWKTeil7mY9hP//k2VQ5GyNCOZBMpbmH50clsr+wDWEACRr98ZR9LDCLB6rdx 2IslBRHQuvsbhGjXPXbUSLCFuOaVOO3ELkEycqvOM3jZ1vJBSpnE4PlySyA0XXNZc5XAEBEUe ykQfOd1p503qJGClwd5jhDv94oeNlmKMoc7P3cuGhTCANGpawdOPDH5Pc3ESLU0GHob0zMD1T Jxde5zg5wjlVbX4ppVaCz5a7CuaWEIopVEZsp55Laq6UGE8vqbbq2jEQyvhFp2nJ8ixd70o7s nLuAd99bWm580pk/7wKan8bMvvMrVoVVvl4PcNRP8meOyj/u5XbZvS4fUzqysoXpzirGpjqUz WhS9l8FTXNKkrzxpqeF7KJuVwhPIzEoziA5vuoGS9H2iG5jSLkHp3/NJo8VR6kt/BMBxHoay4 K8BL7eTRCrMvvqy926NA6/cEjarWG0ZopgynZYPBX9hw2hHt/rWHwNSFvgDlCp9G0KjEnrOmC 2z+ypj+ldadmUKY4CESbXBBNt323Gv9PX2ynwS64Irpv8hPeCIe6tdni1LLryjtcSzhIihw== Subject: Re: [Bloat] New Version Notification for draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie-01.txt X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:04:57 -0000 Hi Michael, > On 11. Mar 2025, at 10:50, Michael Welzl via Bloat = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > If folks here think that this could be a useful thing to get published = (in the sense of standards aligning with actually deployed, and = reasonable, code), this document could benefit from comments on the IETF = TSVWG ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/tsvwg/about/ ) mailing list (or = at the meeting). > I have no stake in this but I like the document and think it would be = useful to work on - but so far, I think I=E2=80=99m the only one who = said that, there. +1; looks like a useful addition to the RFC corpus. I also note that the = fdraft is refreshingly to the point, short and non-contentious. >=20 > Cheers, > Michael >=20 >=20 >> On 10 Mar 2025, at 20:01, Mohit P. Tahiliani via Bloat = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> I have been working on an Internet Draft on Flow Queue PIE (FQ-PIE) = [https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie/], and = recently submitted a revised version. >>=20 >> It has been incorporated into the mainline Linux kernel as a queuing = discipline (qdisc). Additionally, an implementation of FQ-PIE is = available in the ns-3 network simulator. >>=20 >> If you have any suggestions or feedback, please let me know. >>=20 >> Thanks and Regards, >> Mohit P. Tahiliani >>=20 >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: >> Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 12:56=E2=80=AFAM >> Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie-01.txt >> To: Mohit P. Tahiliani >>=20 >>=20 >> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie-01.txt = has been >> successfully submitted by Mohit Tahiliani and posted to the >> IETF repository. >>=20 >> Name: draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie >> Revision: 01 >> Title: Flow Queue PIE: A Hybrid Packet Scheduler and Active Queue = Management Algorithm >> Date: 2025-03-03 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 8 >> URL: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie-01.txt >> Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie/ >> HTML: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie-01.html >> HTMLized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie >> Diff: = https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft-tahiliani-tsvwg-fq-pie-0= 1 >>=20 >> Abstract: >>=20 >> This document presents Flow Queue Proportional Integral controller >> Enhanced (FQ-PIE), a hybrid packet scheduler and Active Queue >> Management (AQM) algorithm to isolate flows and tackle the problem = of >> bufferbloat. FQ-PIE uses hashing to classify incoming packets = into >> different queues and provide flow isolation. Packets are dequeued = by >> using a variant of the round robin scheduler. Each such flow is >> managed by the PIE algorithm to maintain high link utilization = while >> controlling the queue delay to a target value. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF Secretariat >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat