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From: Stefan Alfredsson <stefan.alfredsson@kau.se>
To: jb <justin@dslr.net>, David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] bufferbloat at high edge rates
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 07:00:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <389eca46-80cf-99ae-9669-46e7fe767cbc@kau.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH3Ss948=ceqbbEVbC-dJ+ZjhXgwXsaFPzBuepy8BYZxA7YW0w@mail.gmail.com>

I had the same problem, getting no bloat report. I tested just now 
running as root, and got bloat measurements in 
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6166098 and 
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6166295

 From Firefox, I get somewhat higer latency (~100 ms) versus ~20-60 ms 
via the command line client:

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6130740
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6130727
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6130708
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6130690


Two things to note:

- Firefox tests were run yesterday at around lunchtime  (~12.00 CET), 
and CLI tests just now (~06.40 CET). So time-of-day effect may be a 
reason for less bloat now. I'll do a better comparison when I get to my 
desktop.

- CLI tests were run in a docker container, for security purposes. I 
used host networking so it should not have affected measurements much, 
but still. This was how it was executed:


// downloaded the dslreports cli tool to my host /tmp directory, mapping 
/tmp to /host in the debian container

$ docker run --rm -t -i -v /tmp:/host:ro debian

root@db0ea060caa7:/# apt-get update ; apt-get install ca-certificates
[... snip ...]
root@db0ea060caa7:/# /host/dslrcli-linux-amd64
Selecting nearest servers....
Download Testing.....
Upload Testing.....
Uploading results...
Download : 883.56 Megabit/sec Upload : 895.32 Megabit/sec
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6166098



A better option would be using CAP_NET_RAW, I'll see if this works 
instead of running with full root privs.

/Stefan



On 16/11/16 05:09, jb wrote:
> It has to run as root / Admin in order to do ICMP in order to test 
> buffer bloat.
>
> If you run it under a non privileged user account it cannot get 
> permission for ICMP, so although it locates the nearest servers using 
> http ping, it isn't doing any buffer bloat testing.
>
> I'm not sure that is the issue but that's the first thing that comes 
> to mind..
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm 
> <mailto:david@lang.hm>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, 15 Nov 2016, jb wrote:
>
>         The command line tool is available to anyone now (Windows, OSX
>         and linux),
>         it does buffer bloat probing, using ICMP if run as root, and
>         is immune to
>         any browser issues. It can be downloaded here from the sticky:
>         http://www.dslreports.com/forum/speedtestbinary
>         <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/speedtestbinary>
>
>
>     This does not seem to be reporting any bloat info (I've run it a
>     couple times)
>
>     http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6156013
>     <http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6156013>
>
>     David Lang
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-16  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 19:02 Dave Taht
2016-11-14 20:06 ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-15 16:22   ` Dave Taht
2016-11-15 23:16     ` jb
2016-11-15  0:11 ` jb
2016-11-15  0:31   ` Dave Taht
2016-11-15  0:36     ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-15 15:23   ` James Cloos
2016-11-15 15:43     ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-16  0:34   ` David Lang
2016-11-16  4:09     ` jb
2016-11-16  6:00       ` Stefan Alfredsson [this message]
2016-11-16 11:26         ` Stefan Alfredsson
2016-11-16 20:27         ` jb
2016-11-16  6:02       ` David Lang
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR04MB05665A2EFEB8CE55866C839A95BE0@CY4PR04MB0566.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
2016-11-17  0:16         ` jb
2016-11-17  7:50           ` David Lang

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