From: Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] 22 seconds til bloat on gfiber?
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:27:34 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39BB3099-B644-4490-8ACD-C0F25A9BB3EA@jonathanfoulkes.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.313.1477591111.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
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Dave, amen to that. Please do write that piece.
Totally agree that modern internet usage benefits most from short RTTs, low jitter and low latencies.
Heck, even 12Mbps DSL lets me enjoy most use cases with no problems.
Jonathan
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 1:58 PM, bloat-request@lists.bufferbloat.net wrote:
>
> When you are on one side of an S curve, it's hard to see where it flattens out.
>
> I've been meaning to research and write a piece called "have we
> reached 'Peak Bandwidth'"? for a while now.
>
> My thesis is that what users actually want is short RTTs for
> interactive, once basic bandwidth needs are slaked, which starts to
> happen once you crack the largest typical load (which these days is 4k
> video streaming).
>
> gbit fiber is *way* on the unneeded side of the demand curve for home users.
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2016-10-27 19:27 ` Jonathan Foulkes [this message]
2016-10-22 21:56 Dave Taht
2016-10-22 23:52 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-10-23 1:33 ` jb
2016-10-23 1:45 ` Dave Taht
2016-10-23 1:47 ` Dave Taht
2016-10-23 2:27 ` jb
[not found] ` <CAJq5cE3DsV9v6ATVeq+vF_kVFjKy+8Qjwe-P01ZZbyKZB9HC6w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-10-23 8:29 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-10-23 9:23 ` jb
2016-10-23 16:14 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-24 0:46 ` jb
2016-10-24 13:13 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-24 16:11 ` Noah Causin
2016-10-24 20:27 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-23 2:30 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-25 7:10 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2016-10-23 5:50 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-10-24 16:57 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2016-10-24 22:10 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-25 0:09 ` jb
2016-10-25 12:01 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-25 13:11 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-25 21:20 ` jb
2016-10-26 0:02 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-25 15:59 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-10-26 1:05 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-26 14:49 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-10-26 15:36 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-10-27 14:32 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2016-10-27 16:56 ` Dave Taht
2016-10-27 19:30 ` David Lang
2016-10-27 19:41 ` Dave Taht
2016-10-27 19:48 ` Aaron Wood
2016-10-28 15:51 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-10-28 15:55 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-27 19:45 ` Aaron Wood
2016-10-27 20:17 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-12-07 5:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-12-07 7:05 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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