* [Bloat] Has any one seen the VSee Network Stability Test?
@ 2024-09-29 13:04 Rich Brown
2024-09-29 16:03 ` Dave Taht
2024-09-30 17:21 ` Rich Brown
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From: Rich Brown @ 2024-09-29 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
I came across an intriguing utility a while back. The "VSee Network Stability Test" is a web page that continually monitors the quality of your network connection so you can determine whether your Zoom call crapped out because of a network problem. (VSee provides telehealth services, and I imagine they created this test so they could blame someone else...)
It appears that the test page establishes an RTC connection to their server, and uses the response times of the traffic to compute latency, jitter, and packet loss. It also computes MOS score (used to rate telephone call quality) and shows all three in graphs. Check it out at:
https://test.vsee.com/network/index.html
Although the underlying data is compelling, their web page is as ugly as sin (at least for non-techies). I have asked VSee whether they might be open to making changes, or if they might make the source code available, but I think it's unlikely.
Alternatively, does anyone know of an equivalent facility that has a) a nicer web page and b) source code available? Thanks
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* Re: [Bloat] Has any one seen the VSee Network Stability Test?
2024-09-29 13:04 [Bloat] Has any one seen the VSee Network Stability Test? Rich Brown
@ 2024-09-29 16:03 ` Dave Taht
2024-09-29 18:13 ` David Collier-Brown
2024-09-30 17:21 ` Rich Brown
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From: Dave Taht @ 2024-09-29 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rich Brown; +Cc: bloat
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Neat. I ran it concurrently with a few other tests on my starlink, with an
ongoing score of excellent to good.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 6:04 AM Rich Brown via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> I came across an intriguing utility a while back. The "VSee Network
> Stability Test" is a web page that continually monitors the quality of your
> network connection so you can determine whether your Zoom call crapped out
> because of a network problem. (VSee provides telehealth services, and I
> imagine they created this test so they could blame someone else...)
>
> It appears that the test page establishes an RTC connection to their
> server, and uses the response times of the traffic to compute latency,
> jitter, and packet loss. It also computes MOS score (used to rate telephone
> call quality) and shows all three in graphs. Check it out at:
>
> https://test.vsee.com/network/index.html
>
> Although the underlying data is compelling, their web page is as ugly as
> sin (at least for non-techies). I have asked VSee whether they might be
> open to making changes, or if they might make the source code available,
> but I think it's unlikely.
>
> Alternatively, does anyone know of an equivalent facility that has a) a
> nicer web page and b) source code available? Thanks
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* Re: [Bloat] Has any one seen the VSee Network Stability Test?
2024-09-29 16:03 ` Dave Taht
@ 2024-09-29 18:13 ` David Collier-Brown
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From: David Collier-Brown @ 2024-09-29 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
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I used it to argue that the building network was broken at work (the
response was crickets) and in a future p99conf talk.
It arguably needs a second axis on the lower two graphs, with an
indication of what point which badnesses occurs.
--dave
On 9/29/24 12:03, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:
> Neat. I ran it concurrently with a few other tests on my starlink,
> with an ongoing score of excellent to good.
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 6:04 AM Rich Brown via Bloat
> <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> I came across an intriguing utility a while back. The "VSee
> Network Stability Test" is a web page that continually monitors
> the quality of your network connection so you can determine
> whether your Zoom call crapped out because of a network problem.
> (VSee provides telehealth services, and I imagine they created
> this test so they could blame someone else...)
>
> It appears that the test page establishes an RTC connection to
> their server, and uses the response times of the traffic to
> compute latency, jitter, and packet loss. It also computes MOS
> score (used to rate telephone call quality) and shows all three in
> graphs. Check it out at:
>
> https://test.vsee.com/network/index.html
>
> Although the underlying data is compelling, their web page is as
> ugly as sin (at least for non-techies). I have asked VSee whether
> they might be open to making changes, or if they might make the
> source code available, but I think it's unlikely.
>
> Alternatively, does anyone know of an equivalent facility that has
> a) a nicer web page and b) source code available? Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
>
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* Re: [Bloat] Has any one seen the VSee Network Stability Test?
2024-09-29 13:04 [Bloat] Has any one seen the VSee Network Stability Test? Rich Brown
2024-09-29 16:03 ` Dave Taht
@ 2024-09-30 17:21 ` Rich Brown
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From: Rich Brown @ 2024-09-30 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
Update: I heard back from VSee support. They were quite clear that they do NOT wish to share their code, nor to make their server side a public API.
My questions:
- Is the existing 1.0.4 version (https://test.vsee.com/network/index.html) "good enough" for widespread testing?
- Does anyone know of a similar test setup that makes source code available?
Many thanks.
Rich
PS I made a short code for the URL: bit.ly/VSee
> On Sep 29, 2024, at 9:04 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I came across an intriguing utility a while back. The "VSee Network Stability Test" is a web page that continually monitors the quality of your network connection so you can determine whether your Zoom call crapped out because of a network problem. (VSee provides telehealth services, and I imagine they created this test so they could blame someone else...)
>
> It appears that the test page establishes an RTC connection to their server, and uses the response times of the traffic to compute latency, jitter, and packet loss. It also computes MOS score (used to rate telephone call quality) and shows all three in graphs. Check it out at:
>
> https://test.vsee.com/network/index.html
>
> Although the underlying data is compelling, their web page is as ugly as sin (at least for non-techies). I have asked VSee whether they might be open to making changes, or if they might make the source code available, but I think it's unlikely.
>
> Alternatively, does anyone know of an equivalent facility that has a) a nicer web page and b) source code available? Thanks
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