From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D65A43CB38 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2024 16:53:54 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1704750833; x=1705355633; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=MAJ5Yk6P/jS6g5v5Nb3laR2B7kGPHzBf10QnA6sG6ig=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References; b=r7FiTNwjp+X0WikP6JvowIWm8kLvimC8aj3KAol6Ptp4Ulu17+wi14fE2yRfCm+P NpEkN4yFUBUWvE7llTySICYSanKkIBe2xIIePC3s6Waiyf1yFa7rtqU+qUrFhPuTZ mX8Ttt0tjzwhD51G5zLNKhri5HwZo+zFUcwmOFjKoGeJXh6WavcNm2h4JiS8wlfKZ pR7tJjr0lSMTaE9XoEfqGuLA6Yg4LLHuzd/T/yYn3cIFR86OoHqWYM+4S1ELcBujR PvXQrwOqHIHVG1C1idxY60YlCJ2GD36K8srSr60WNUlHDTq6at9FPBVJ5lCuEksxn 613d0bRKAXbIfFQfEQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([77.8.50.151]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MCKFk-1rWGxO3U38-009QCj; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:53:52 +0100 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:53:47 +0100 From: Sebastian Moeller To: Juliusz Chroboczek CC: Bloat User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <871qareduw.wl-jch@irif.fr> References: <871qareduw.wl-jch@irif.fr> Message-ID: <4065073E-D259-4403-B8AC-71059FC536DE@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2Ii+rxYFVVASTkrjIzWY4/MaGvLt0IjlfYb73JHdlfinZ3HCoDW wmeKN7YC98g52CEBGTKf3VtfKVZkZXufBOv13Fa5NyaEAUhJKla3recL1PUXlFbxhmZ+Wur JFv+GAJG/da6nwPiwrsFHChj9dwi/pNzLHniKFMLPyGblrCOcPfN7Aa+uVWJGcZZzJYrJWr 41GrUWHYkCXkk+icpwz+Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:Z3VEEA/72pQ=;T6e+qLQpG++QDJ0vDBFOliHAQoL tFma3/LBw89D1wx18aTvzskya+srpBRT6ChHd6c83mx/oEIEZUCLUw7FwBZ8RfRVXwEMmkZGu wAWBYkOUxE1fxOyYzzvRIETz8gJuMPZ+0E97MjULHT+jI1cVzflC9N5+l5M61+zxKAtn01M9H US/wBWLyDEDP3Gzatmz14A0XgkgH2UXJ+Dn5zcjYSH6hRC2kwWQ/tu2z4hjuDB4/Nosu8uKaD 2i7yDYNKGTzVHX2Ts2W8acOD8AHPgdHu7Y/QNMbC3u9ua/bZNIJs3gA2ttXJPjnAXul3LjCCt wyE86tBWiYLT+Dr7wsoc7t2uQ2fomxmHEv5enMG+aMjIbJPGMwesP9cgQ6n1j2xaDzhfom0Kz B3sBWT92bwWm17b3hBIAAD5QwBIA2LRoXlGSN6xwrK8X/ea4C7KCTg8oP1Gk+UICyCV8kpzZG rgY8ak3X6MFbqzuSvE37BOcmc7aOvE4Em5JkKmaXEK4/bXkK5AV9wrNRq6ARYbJVyerD9w1yL DY2//McMtBHJzhWKFdI39U+Es527RZ6uOp47V/cxyT+2GZkoB27tK4vs5WunG4wp+xst5RkCL 6qiVkeD329FU4MgeJyjgjc4SKiOET/nUzBqJg9g1HFwYvoFOaM9BhfwxpgfpH3k/DIrnKcb3q T0GVEFIyKObGasXpy5G1Msjbaax6va6Gi/x6l9ONuhwd7Yhlz67zzLEMrs8zD82ZksGSM1Q6p rllhYhMvfLbjHhfEbAFoYkAPy7sGP4tyuDa9uaAl4HSYVPAkiljkLVFonNJTvh9FNPNMSqZd4 W01qLuzywLE3lmOo5MPuJ3pEMsKL0S3UrP6qyU6kYM0h+eabBKycpjngxYdeqxPM0KmFxNKat a4HRF4VNE0+wx7/pywvdr7Nrk82660x21bG4Lc11l8nZul04CPtiYI1Ys824SK1O4282LSgrj nY2jyg== Subject: Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 21:53:55 -0000 Hi Julien, On 8 January 2024 22:04:23 CET, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> (h++ps://github=2Ecom/network-quality/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness)= =2E > >There's quite a few good ideas in this draft, but the one that I find >intriguing is reporting RTT values in RPM (units of 1/60 Hz) rather than >milliseconds=2E That idea, reporting the reciprocal has been around for some time, I think= I first heard it from Jonathan Morton=2E But this is the first implementat= ion=2E=2E=2E=2E Now personally I tend to think about 'latency' as sort of a budget, and th= en accounting where this budget is spent is easier with durations than peri= ods=2E But I understand the attraction of 'bigger is better' numbers as wel= l=2E Though most people also know smaller is better number, like product pr= ices or taxes owed, but I digress=2E > >I wonder how well this works=2E I'll experiment with undergrads=2E The goresponsiveness code is quite readable and might give a convenient st= arting point for some quick and dirty exploration=2E=2E=2E > >-- Juliusz --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E