From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mx143.netapp.com (mx143.netapp.com [216.240.21.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx143.netapp.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 International Server CA - G3" (not verified)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EDEE21F3C6 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.09,659,1418112000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="26350446" Received: from hioexcmbx04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.122.105.37]) by mx143-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 27 Feb 2015 02:49:25 -0800 Received: from HIOEXCMBX07-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.40) by hioexcmbx04-prd.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.29; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:49:23 -0800 Received: from HIOEXCMBX07-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([::1]) by hioexcmbx07-prd.hq.netapp.com ([fe80::90b4:b24a:2e3b:2056%21]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.031; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:49:23 -0800 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: bloat Thread-Topic: Packet loss in FCC press release Thread-Index: AQHQUnsMZFflu+QlZ0O3zz5tAlDXMA== Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:49:23 +0000 Message-ID: <435DDB48-33B9-400A-ACE3-CD29C50CF6E3@netapp.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) x-originating-ip: [10.122.56.79] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_62AE37B6-98B8-4C2F-A616-F73224C06272"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Bloat] Packet loss in FCC press release X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:54:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_62AE37B6-98B8-4C2F-A616-F73224C06272 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, did anyone notice the second sentence in paragraph below from the FCC's = press release at = http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2015/db0226/DOC-33= 2260A1.pdf: > In addition to the existing transparency rule, which was not struck = down by the court, the Order requires that broadband providers disclose, = in a consistent format, promotional rates, fees and surcharges and data = caps. Disclosures must also include packet loss as a measure of network = performance, and provide notice of network management practices that can = affect service. "Packet loss as a measure of network performance" being the only such = measure explicitly called out doesn't leave me with the warm fuzzy = feeling that the folks the factors affecting QoE over IP networks. ISPs = are being incentivized to optimize for reduced packet loss, and we know = how that goes. Lars --Apple-Mail=_62AE37B6-98B8-4C2F-A616-F73224C06272 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQCVAwUBVPBLstZcnpRveo1xAQJlPgP+LPtEc92VfOv5rvl67yNYmuxyNexaEal0 0bfQhtM//VI2kdha+1QuetpNjPyVo48A9ELb0qcj+ZuG0eMByrUm9yxIfJZ6xe55 HOeCe6qgtVIvNcQE4RhrnO/C1d/1XjULc682SeGfCzlcflFnNF16VFaiaPukitwL 8XNly5DF0EY= =DFX2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_62AE37B6-98B8-4C2F-A616-F73224C06272--