From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x22b.google.com (mail-lf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0818B3B25E for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 09:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id h129so12831054lfh.1 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 06:55:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=8RDH6HgJrTGHL2Fu19URXHXGftXG7IuEjDvAMlw1V0Q=; b=rLUsRkKI6FMTnDwXAXfHY1JBO4n9+3QwLHIutP7AuekHOBen5TTI+QsbW9Axoq17+D ImWajokeMAOtOFgwr8ditCRXVyTwnb1Slfv5jhX5kHmgJ2myeAtyn1ZR6BW4PbhaDW2T e/HEHhOlGBYG5jIhcD0ABrKV7lQNnxCUExPXPmztEP/DQyhUiFNm/OOJEpQfp+8aueJl 0MePZwta7TrB96ncZTK2Gt6iitVaUPBJ8Is10adDu1xQVhb/rSuir6nMS4vfeYnYMR2o cX1QDcSOtXk77Rq+DdndnxrRAkapwoqPX+1J++xc7W5C3laJNdSkJedG3j4kqyZBBFIP uKYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=8RDH6HgJrTGHL2Fu19URXHXGftXG7IuEjDvAMlw1V0Q=; b=Du9yvVXMwHcMmmB6h3zy9x5bz3FlbRs2WayyTByiDZFCxeQiO/ZBcrKlATpX/QIK1s R8Sa3vHO9ADd+kcbPy4e5jRYO591n3CK2SPVsyEly3XaweaRNRWcIXfCH4u8V2x+XuWQ 8OpPXwHm0pIrr+OVQYfJkyPg1eQmLwhymmgquOZDcHnaDPz+eUTwric7ITgXEY0/x+Yu crKhWaD3Jc4XmEy+I90zzrMTrAzKdtMeanOtIBRlykMPMllyt7hrnRQTGWmfyNvlgNVq zhKsVMGPQcJSu+6J59xPFswF/xBavZmDtA1MDAsxBLSzMbM95C/FVKOWaH3drb9jkalb cn4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJOYdYAJWJ3lh3QxMRj258tTC3xwTSBRKSuv3C2etxXDn0AhHBPczgZPHlnOLPVwQ== X-Received: by 10.46.0.14 with SMTP id 14mr1884926lja.60.1466258142580; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 06:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (37-33-112-183.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.33.112.183]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id la3sm1230075lbc.28.2016.06.18.06.55.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Jun 2016 06:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <57652F0C.3040203@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:55:12 +0300 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4685FAFC-D406-4BD5-B37C-2E0AFDD2D410@gmail.com> References: <57650074.90106@gmail.com> <57652072.7020708@gmail.com> <5765248F.5000108@gmail.com> <87porevkfu.fsf@toke.dk> <57652B2C.6010209@gmail.com> <874m8qvje4.fsf@toke.dk> <57652F0C.3040203@gmail.com> To: Jan Ceuleers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Bloat] ultrafast broadband conference june 27-30 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:55:44 -0000 > On 18 Jun, 2016, at 14:22, Jan Ceuleers = wrote: >=20 > Would it be worth pursuing an RFC on how to properly test the > performance of an internet access circuit and/or of a path across an = IP > network? RFC compliance might be a tool to get Ookla to take notice. I think that could happen, if someone sits down and drafts one. The = =E2=80=9CAQM Characterization Guidelines=E2=80=9D one is coming along = nicely, and is obviously related. - Jonathan Morton