>>>>> "David" == David Lang writes: David> typical conditions are David> 1G 1M David> desktop -----firewall ---- Internet Agreed. But, they are trying to measure: 1G 1G ? 7Mb/s 100M desktop -----firewall ---- Internet ---- ISP ------- firewall ---- peer ^^- sampling point As I said, he is measuring at the location he can. This is akin to measuring just on the outside of www.google.com. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [