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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0827c3f695d3c9d6986c4c139046eaec; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3ssRz14D0CImsi9qYmt1GjOh" Message-ID: <4858d32f-c3f5-4f96-9d33-ee526e8dfdeb@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:28:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Stephen Hemminger , Dave Taht via Bloat References: <9c5cb462-56ab-4a1d-a971-6cb1f437ced8@rogers.com> <20240710154403.5b49c902@hermes.local> Content-Language: en-US From: David Collier-Brown In-Reply-To: <20240710154403.5b49c902@hermes.local> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22464 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fwd: [CCWG] ETC: An Elastic Transmission Control Using End-to-End Available Bandwidth Perception X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:28:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3ssRz14D0CImsi9qYmt1GjOh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nor do I see them on gitlab (:-() Changing the subject, I'd love to see /how/, but they do seem to say /what/. Do you think there is enough information in there that one could do a proof-of-concept? Not even an MVP, just enough to confirm or deny the hypothesis, if they don't offer source. As they're distinguishing themselves from Huawei, which owns them[1] by saying that they're "dedicated to pursuing openness in Research & Development (R&D) by embracing Open Innovation Model." I do think there's a good chance that they'll open-source an MVP. --dave [1. https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/exclusive-huaweis-us-research-arm-builds-separate-identity-idUSKCN1TP2DG/ ] On 2024-07-10 18:44, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:28:28 -0700 > Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 3:11 PM David Collier-Brown via Bloat < >> bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >> >>> One of those papers that make you go "why didn't I think of that?" >>> >>> Of course, it does have to work (;-)) >>> >> No sources, no email addresses, I am tempted to drop in on the conference >> to see if any source is available. >> >> There are a lot of ideas in there that I have been advocating a while - >> varying the pacing rate (e!) to get an early estimate of congestion - and >> quite a few more newer ones that seem excellent, like just treating the >> leading edge of an ack as part of the estimator. Love how well it competes >> with itself! >> >> It's just a paper... no sources... agggh.... > Poking around a little, author seems to be associated with: > FutureWei Technolgieshttp://futurewei.com > Which has various Open Source marketing stuff in their vision but no > github or download links. -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain --------------3ssRz14D0CImsi9qYmt1GjOh Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Nor do I see them on gitlab (:-()


Changing the subject, I'd love to see how, but they do seem to say what.

Do you think there is enough information in there that one could do a proof-of-concept? Not even an MVP, just enough to confirm or deny the hypothesis, if they don't offer source.

As they're distinguishing themselves from Huawei, which owns them[1] by saying that they're "dedicated to pursuing openness in Research & Development (R&D) by embracing Open Innovation Model." I do think there's a good chance that they'll open-source an MVP.

--dave

[1. https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/exclusive-huaweis-us-research-arm-builds-separate-identity-idUSKCN1TP2DG/ ]

 


On 2024-07-10 18:44, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:28:28 -0700
Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:


On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 3:11 PM David Collier-Brown via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:  


One of those papers that make you go "why didn't I think of that?"

Of course, it does have to work (;-))
 

No sources, no email addresses, I am tempted to drop in on the conference
to see if any source is available.

There are a lot of ideas in there that I have been advocating a while -
varying the pacing rate (e!) to get an early estimate of congestion - and
quite a few more newer ones that seem excellent, like just treating the
leading edge of an ack as part of the estimator.  Love how well it competes
with itself!

It's just a paper... no sources... agggh....

Poking around a little, author seems to be associated with:
 FutureWei Technolgies http://futurewei.com
Which has various Open Source marketing stuff in their vision but no
github or download links.

-- 
David Collier-Brown,         | Always do right. This will gratify
System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest
davecb@spamcop.net           |              -- Mark Twain
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