From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x834.google.com (mail-qt1-x834.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::834]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 263CB3B29E for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2025 08:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x834.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-467b086e0easo8503381cf.1 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:20:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1738329645; x=1738934445; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/tcL2eLj+VXGMH/l7W1LUPtFhbAVgdL6WuuXxTRIrGc=; b=An6aLbB2zhLmB7wVoxysY0zNAJw2zULmT3ZjT3UDoDAVhJDiLYzQzXWHCYXZirbHJt 4oCFYJJVXZKXGNA6fKnL03rC3ObQ5LB/5crw3WJ+i2hMwOcBT91nk1dGjXe/ZCdTC/bJ e2PGKj/nfn1ju7B1dBbLMEbVeVGLdpO8CHR5Su1S0SaUVxKsos0XwDnYaTRyRnxZymPq gZ/IreJgRK4GD2Pn1A5HpjsT+ignczZC+22WTaBk127lHwnzT130w7VZAfQkUY+8HjdP clcL4jfyVFpt5E9dmM0Tiw4DBPwJ8FJ5nnwL4toj42AOEYk9UVyNoN7rTvhwEuU6l7oW Euag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1738329645; x=1738934445; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/tcL2eLj+VXGMH/l7W1LUPtFhbAVgdL6WuuXxTRIrGc=; b=aOs9X8VMQHlFacg//KKZD2CkdSzkdHbnElYosvwWeTxlCkrUrN+ZT5tYwFZsWdDZdt MfvVDnGoFnHPMp+xItnBeF5nxbLH3RzySnyRrt7aJg7Fv8VM3CGtqx9mQspWjEtaTUfW p8j7/cT7SVocvMFbFo+nELqotkM/Cf0bmVa7qNHVJOUvjReANZO4S5kJbvNuN7+dzfym Vhh8dxAAt+5p66PzG9OjVvKEP/469UjUREjSIUtfpTBGeDaT83hIlfuMtyd2wPi339Wo zt1ZXXytfLyCnN5q52lpK4jgfvfHETukeyS03c6DXhbtxrrWsxilpwE/+kqsJTBRacmS I+Tw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy8ESSYODTZ3qGIMt0RbixDeTDxfcjDI94fUty6dCepUA+DIJhG uwHps3Ih+uPl6IXfwaBpS/WvpHnAKEfzZ7I4I3SB8kckF0sbQj3Or1ixNA== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsjbNLZViRUHa5bIJvLgwzHqRYgS0I3ObWRxo3p5QZc5rScDuSgZf07PcF17ne 0rTw0n0i6ikq3pHnMYdF22j5vfTTYmQtDM9AWcGzKxceiyYnjevlCrQQyMaawV6LnPz3W0zQHiC jy7EhebyCovVU8rgS0k8Vui0uuf+bILKwvoPQiqb5xxU9DryO4HIO9Dd53bZEgtoO0WtL5I/rM/ ljrgehTn3Dok10CJ4o7O/fEIrDnBqZ8BiwALh7JaJ/MADVGM6h6WGtIAoGWUFHZ2M/mvCbbtPMX VrOSWuSoaLUCrDbfyUSZhK9x2Rv//bWtIsjnjQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHt13QYOIDuhHMz2Vy6/PWuBqE3CKJXEmImEeb6kEm4NJ0szqEUjoUPM2RBAFduDe8wf9A7aQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:ce:b0:46c:7737:c51c with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-46fd0a94942mr155044141cf.20.1738329645558; Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([216.24.173.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d75a77b69052e-46fdf0e0d5fsm18257481cf.44.2025.01.31.05.20.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.400.131.1.6\)) Message-Id: <48F77C27-0E57-4F96-9BD8-238CC93342F8@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 08:20:31 -0500 To: Rich Brown via Bloat X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.400.131.1.6) Subject: [Bloat] Comcast & L4S X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 13:20:46 -0000 Google Alerts sent me this: = https://www.webpronews.com/comcasts-latency-leap-a-game-changer-in-network= -performance/ Key quote: "Compatibility and Ecosystem: For L4S to have a significant = impact, it requires an ecosystem where both the network infrastructure = and the end-user devices support the standard..." Can anyone spell "boil the ocean"? :-) Or am I missing someting?