From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
Cc: Alex Elsayed <eternaleye@gmail.com>,
"bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] RED against bufferbloat
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:29:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A80D1F9-F4A1-4D14-AC75-958C5A2E8168@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FC82EEB0-5E7E-473F-B9B3-2BFEC06C7689@ifi.uio.no>
Hi Michael,
On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:18 , Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
> Two points,
>
> below...
>
> [...]
> Why exactly did you think we should have looked at asymmetric paths? To study what?
> ( I'm not debating that asymmetric paths play out different in behavior. I'm just saying that one needs to be clear about what exactly is being investigated, and why.)
>
> [...]
I have an opinion on that: because a) asymmetric is the general case and symmetric the special case b) a large percentage of end-nodes sit behind asymmetric paths that often are the bottlenecks that cause the queues for AQM to act on, so any AQM better work well in that situation to avoid spending its live in the ivory tower ;). So to put it in different words, as reality has an "asymmetry bias” ;)
Best Regards
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-25 9:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-24 15:43 sahil grover
2015-02-24 16:13 ` Matt Mathis
2015-02-24 22:39 ` Kathleen Nichols
2015-02-25 6:46 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 6:54 ` David Lang
2015-02-25 6:59 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 8:29 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 8:06 ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25 8:42 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 9:18 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 9:29 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2015-02-25 10:10 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 10:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 11:04 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 18:39 ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26 9:01 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 10:39 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:44 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:59 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:12 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-27 0:26 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 10:45 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:59 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 11:26 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 12:57 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 13:36 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:38 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 14:05 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 18:51 ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-25 14:16 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 16:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 17:34 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 17:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:54 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 14:06 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 14:18 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 15:18 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 17:04 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:07 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:33 ` [Bloat] RE : " luca.muscariello
2015-02-26 18:59 ` [Bloat] " Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 19:44 ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26 20:42 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 21:50 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 16:54 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:54 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 11:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 12:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-25 19:04 ` David Lang
2015-02-25 19:30 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 9:31 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 10:37 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:54 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 17:28 ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25 18:03 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 9:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 17:57 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 19:25 Hal Murray
2015-02-25 20:00 ` Jonathan Morton
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