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From: "David Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] the observed sack oddity
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:51:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E9449DF.4010401@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1318340013.2538.30.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro-SFF-PC>

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On 10/11/2011 03:33 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le mardi 11 octobre 2011 à 15:11 +0200, David Täht a écrit :
>> Of course, it would help if I posted a link to the screenshots!
>>
>> http://www.teklibre.com/~d/sackoddity/
>>
>> On 10/11/2011 03:09 PM, David Täht wrote:
>>> I have put up screenshots of tcptrace -G and xplot.org's analysis of my
>>> most recent capture of an ipv6 connection over freebox (wired) from a
>>> debloat-testing kernel here in france (pre 3.1 by a lot) to a 2.6.16
>>> kernel (the aformentioned netsonar box) in redwood city, ca, both
>>> running tcp cubic, over ipv6.
>>>
>>> at first glance, it looked a lot like a classic bufferbloat trace, with
>>> complete with periodic collapses and cubic increasing the window.
>>>
>>> Then I noticed the sacks.
>>>
>>> I also have a trace taken between the debloat-testing box and a cerowrt
>>> box (running linux 3.04), both running westwood, which shows
>>> considerably less undesirable behavior, and I will repeat that test with
>>> cubic this evening and post additional data tomorrow morning.
>
> Who is the sender ?

The laptop was the netperf initiator, running 3.1.0-rc4-dbt23 #1 SMP
PREEMPT. This is basically 3.1-rc4 + the very few debloat-testing
patches which are all specific to wifi. I can easily test against
2.6.38, and with a little work, against linux git head, on the laptop.

sysctl on the laptop side is:

net.ipv4.tcp_ecn=1
net.ipv4.tcp_sack=1
net.ipv4.tcp_dsack=1

net.core.rmem_max = 2097152
net.core.wmem_max = 2097152
net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 87380 2097152
net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 65536 2097152

on the netsonar side remotely (2.6.16), it is whatever the defaults are.

Updating a server in bloatlab #1 in California is a little harder, as
you might imagine, but I should be able to get that done by next week.


> Is some WIFI involved ?

No.

> "netstat -s" on the receiver would help
>
I will rerun the tests.

> This might be a truesize mismatch.
>
>
I saw those patches being discussed but do not understand the implications.



-- 
Dave Täht


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-11 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-11 10:27 [Bloat] a flood of Bufferbloat-related papers David Täht
2011-10-11 11:58 ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2011-10-11 12:13   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-11 12:18     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-11 13:09       ` [Bloat] the observed sack oddity David Täht
2011-10-11 13:11         ` David Täht
2011-10-11 13:33           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-11 13:51             ` David Täht [this message]
2011-10-11 15:25         ` Justin McCann
2011-10-11 15:37         ` Justin McCann
2011-10-13 18:23         ` Jan Ceuleers
2011-10-13 18:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-11 12:40     ` [Bloat] a flood of Bufferbloat-related papers David Täht
2011-10-11 12:17   ` David Täht
2011-10-12  7:49 ` Lawrence Stewart
2011-10-12  8:03   ` David Täht

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