From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735CE20067D for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lstewart.caia.swin.edu.au (lstewart.caia.swin.edu.au [136.186.229.95]) by lauren.room52.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 248627E84F; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:49:54 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4E9546A1.8040602@room52.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:49:53 +1100 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111006 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGF2aWQgVMOkaHQ=?= References: <4E941A05.2050705@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E941A05.2050705@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lauren.room52.net Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] a flood of Bufferbloat-related papers X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:49:58 -0000 Hi David, On 10/11/11 21:27, David Täht wrote: > I sat down on my vacation last week thinking I would write up a review > of progress since the bufferbloat effort began back in January, 2011. In I think we should exercise a bit of caution in relation to saying things like "the bufferbloat effort started in Jan 2011" - the pre-2011 literature alone (although not using the term "bufferbloat" specifically) extensively covers the issues, symptoms and a myriad of solutions for the problem. > particular, I was interested in discovering to what extent we'd made the > cross-over not just into other OSes besides Linux (e.g - BSD, windows) > but into academia. FWIW, I'm a FreeBSD kernel developer and a PhD student working on transport layer congestion control. I've been involved in doing a lot of experimental work related to bufferbloat (we refer to it as "collateral damage" in our papers) using FreeBSD and Linux. > In the future I would certainly appreciate the authors of bufferbloat > related/referencing papers to mention them on this mailing list *as* > they are published! Here are a few pointers to relevant papers done by people at the research centre where I'm studying: "A rough comparison of NewReno, CUBIC, Vegas and ‘CAIA Delay Gradient’ TCP (v0.1)": http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/110729A/CAIA-TR-110729A.pdf "Revisiting TCP Congestion Control using Delay Gradients": http://www.springerlink.com/content/mq50134631115076/ "Multimedia-unfriendly TCP Congestion Control and Home Gateway Queue Management": http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/1943552.1943558 "Improved coexistence and loss tolerance for delay based TCP congestion control": http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5735714&tag=1 "Collateral Damage: The Impact of Optimised TCP Variants on Real-Time Traffic Latency in Consumer Broadband Environments": http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-3-642-01399-7_31 Off the top of my head, you should also check out the work done by Nick McKeown's group (although their focus has been on core routers): http://yuba.stanford.edu/buffersizing/ There's plenty of other relevant work that I can't think of specifically right now, but it's out there. Cheers, Lawrence