From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from biz82.inmotionhosting.com (biz82.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.251.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84982208A50 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.108.137.46] (port=61541 helo=[192.168.145.106]) by biz82.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RxUIf-0005be-9r; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:08:53 -0800 Message-ID: <4F3B13B5.8080703@callenish.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:08:53 -0800 From: Bruce Atherton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Taht References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz82.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.bufferbloat.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - callenish.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Testing Queue models X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:08:55 -0000 On 2/1/2012 12:46 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I don't have a whole lot of hope for classification. In fact, I'm kind > of upset that the move away from flash means we are seeing more video > streams on port 80, rather than on the macromedia port... It may be worse than that in the future. Now that Websockets is RFC6455 the nature of traffic on port 80 may change a lot. Roy Fielding was so concerned about it that he asked that a security note be added to the draft spec. No idea what that will mean for your efforts here.