From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from g1t0027.austin.hp.com (g1t0027.austin.hp.com [15.216.28.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hp.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G3" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93D3A201116 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g1t0039.austin.hp.com (g1t0039.austin.hp.com [16.236.32.45]) by g1t0027.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D0D38075; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [16.89.64.213] (tardy.cup.hp.com [16.89.64.213]) by g1t0039.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3DC3481F; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F88C6B1.6050907@hp.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:37:05 -0700 From: Rick Jones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120313 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Taht References: <20120406213725.GA12641@uio.no> <20120406222138.GB12641@uio.no> <1333811327.30705.4.camel@edumazet-laptop> <20120407153548.GC21452@uio.no> <20120407181034.GD21452@uio.no> <20120407185456.GE21452@uio.no> <20120407190134.GF21452@uio.no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] Best practices for paced TCP on Linux? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:37:07 -0000 And bufferbloat in the intermediate devices would be one thing, but the Linux stack's penchant to grow the socket buffers/windows well beyond the bandwidth delay product certainly does not help. rick jones