hi. My connection is 810kbps( <= 1Mbps). This is my setting For Fq_codel, quantum=300 target=20ms interval=400ms MTU=1478 (for PPPoA) I cannot compare well. But A Latency is around 14ms-40ms. Yutaka. On 2017年11月02日 15:01, cloneman wrote: > I'm trying to gather advice for people stuck on older connections. It > appears that having dedictated /micromanged tc classes greatly > outperforms the "no knobs" fq_codel approach for connections with  > slow upload speed. > > When running a single file upload @350kbps , I've observed the > competing ICMP traffic quickly begin to drop (fq_codel) or be delayed > considerably ( under sfq). From reading the tuning best practices page > is not optimized for this scenario. (<2.5mbps) > (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Best_practices_for_benchmarking_Codel_and_FQ_Codel/) fq_codel > > > Of particular concern is that a no-knobs SFQ works better for me than > an untuned codel ( more delay but much less loss for small flows). > People just flipping the fq_codel button on their router at these low > speeds could be doing themselves a disservice. > > I've toyed with increasing the target and this does solve the > excessive drops. I haven't played with limit and quantum all that much. > > My go-to solution for this would be different classes, > a.k.a.**traditional QoS. But ,  wouldn't it be possible to tune > fq_codel punish the large flows 'properly' for this very low bandwidth > scenario? Surely <1kb ICMP packets can squeeze through properly > without being dropped if there is 350kbps available, if the competing > flow is managed correctly. > > I could create a class filter by packet length, thereby moving > ICMP/VoIP to its own tc class, but  this goes against "no knobs" it > seems like I'm re-inventing the wheel of fair queuing - shouldn't the > smallest flows never be delayed/dropped automatically? > > Lowering Quantum below 1500 is confusing, serving a fractional packet > in a time interval? > > Is there real value in tuning fq_codel for these connections or should > people migrate to something else like nfq_codel? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat