From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCDBF200619 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.71] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1353335176; bh=26QQUw7C3LQQQRkMBOafww0SqH7izymrYHabeS8eTcM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OqNP3QrotMg7RJrkvnoN9iDZnoTJ4acewCw6AduVyxF8/H1+2wZk/6KDF4enjCJNSzZR1jSRfJD8dTEan2K1AK811gB1DHqIBx14XeQ0dISvX/+6x1tysRv6w11Qz+rufhXWyLza3QQOlfQ38F+L9AETSjuvyGHstsiKuIpMkJY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 483472.63665.bm@smtp108.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: tTgELgcVM1k_mcyYYFAYbnRf5lsh9sElKq9O5IHTDc8OgPg KOy_rIXacHf4O9vsX7lZ.VLC8uti_0AMKrfDoUpeVs9YsZP5nz1AVGDMbRPJ wk0ElliuEhlfb98IWJ4VBRZBCVDw__f2QP2CX5A7fe6.l6rZuQ7xoOH_M5ya PNhaYIwkj70EwcZL8HKEp5RZcUs.fz0b6b_Ky4GkEtOet3PztqeXkEYaZk4V coTOn6kblFd.l0zANHk9g926LwoNiI2BrjKeJ0X__vJOCy1B4UYoGYE8VQqm kbWw0nMuJoRmQBG_Nu7uS9_3.L20PoZvii6grY4VKKX9fjYEmg1rzrDwPQCV lBqEEvKpxnQnw9BUgObrxRitX7wvZTEBKyFeJZTxCzyB9fu6hdpwVkozVkK0 nUY8h9rNcHdJqcsAi1idYqKMg5aOgepHIpQgonHZxa1haaHuPQzHt0LySw3a fywy90dQChTWQJnY8dCReTMCPK3P2g3iKOffttjNjyXDG.EUHhxcSsgyac9P bsaRudQgnLJM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: sltvjZWswBCRD.ElTuB1l9j6s9wRYPpuyTNWOE5oEg-- Received: from [192.168.11.50] (davec-b@216.13.131.9 with plain) by smtp108.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2012 06:26:16 -0800 PST Message-ID: <50AA423A.7070902@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:29:14 -0500 From: David Collier-Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] Skype (and Google Voice) X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: davecb@spamcop.net List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:26:18 -0000 Dave Taht wrote: >I recently tried to use both skype and google voice on a concall to >the US during the recent strike and riots in barcelona. Power and >regular internet were down, so I hacked my way into a local mesh node >with a spare directional antenna to make the call. > >The connection was quite lousy, > >Skype was unusable. Google voice sort of worked, but exhibited classic >symptoms of overbuffering and wifi retries, sometimes playing back >seconds of audio at a very high rate, and otherwise dropping out >frequently. > >I got packet traces of the google voice call, but regrettably cannot >share them due to the contents of the call. They are "interesting", >and if I get a chance I'll write up what I learned. You might consider truncating the packets at the end of the headers, and then translate all the identifying addresses to distinct ones on net 10 (;-)) --dave