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From: Oliver Hohlfeld <oliver@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>
To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat at LUG talk - Meeting Report
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:44:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D1B6B0.9080501@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBDF0C80-7217-4C89-8812-0C5347167EB7@gmail.com>

On 12/19/2012 01:20 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote:
> I think we're talking about the "many tabs open" problem.
> 
> But this bothers me as well, actually. Lots of tabs shouldn't affect the
> network unless some of the pages in them are actively transferring data
> for some reason. I've seen lots of pages that have heavy animation or
> Javascript in them, but unless Facebook is even nastier than I was
> previously aware of, that doesn't really translate to high network traffic.

That was exactly the point I tried to stress in the post quoted by Neil;
An open tab does not automatically translate to network traffic, i.e.,
there is not necessarily causality between "open tab" and "Skype
problem". The pure existence of open tabs doesn't say anything; they
must trigger data transfers, there is no network impact otherwise. If
at all and how web transfers impair voice flows depends on a whole lot
of other aspects.

I often observe Javascript rendering in Firefox to fully load one CPU
core, which sometimes interferes with Skype calls on my systems. But
that's not a networking problem and not related to bufferbloat.

Oliver

      reply	other threads:[~2012-12-19 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.4092.1353748990.1742.cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
     [not found] ` <A2E41EFF-2507-457D-9086-06E718192D22@intermapper.com>
2012-12-09 16:56   ` Richard Brown
2012-12-09 17:32     ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Maciej Soltysiak
2012-12-10  0:16       ` Richard Brown
2012-12-12 14:26     ` [Bloat] " Oliver Hohlfeld
2012-12-19 10:21       ` Neil Davies
2012-12-19 12:05         ` Oliver Hohlfeld
2012-12-19 12:20           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-12-19 12:44             ` Oliver Hohlfeld [this message]

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