From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gpo2.cc.swin.edu.au (gpo2.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4621B21F0F2 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [136.186.229.44] (garmitage3.caia.swin.edu.au [136.186.229.44]) by gpo2.cc.swin.edu.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0I1NBO3020058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:23:11 +1100 Message-ID: <50F8A3FF.3090003@swin.edu.au> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:23:11 +1100 From: grenville armitage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111003 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <20130109033920.C47B95B2B40@lawyers.icir.org> <12916ad96425700de4a1892ad43f90b1@lang.hm> In-Reply-To: <12916ad96425700de4a1892ad43f90b1@lang.hm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat Paper X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:23:16 -0000 On 01/09/2013 16:02, David Lang wrote: .[.] > I really like the idea of trying to measure latency by sniffing the network and watching the time for responses. Probably tangential, but http://caia.swin.edu.au/tools/spp/ has proven useful to our group for measuring RTT between two arbitrary packet capture points, for symmetric or asymmetric UDP or TCP traffic flows. Even more tangential, http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/LCN.2005.101 ("Passive TCP Stream Estimation of RTT and Jitter Parameters") might be an interesting algorithm to implement for estimating RTT of TCP flows seen at a single capture point. (This 2005 paper describes an extension of a technique used by tstat at the time.) cheers, gja